Can you accept being a loser in this world?

[Minyatur]

Let's be real here. You can not win in the physical world by acting in a way that resonates with higher densities. We know that's true for worldy things. Of course there are two kinds of winning. One is winning in this world and one is winning in the other. You can not tell me it is possible to have both. Even the disciples of Jesus constantly asked him how to turn the illusion in their favor. But to live in the illusion is not the right way. We are in this world but not of it. This seems rather  hard to accept. In fact probably the hardest to accept and I have had trouble doing that all my life.

Of course you can win in both. The entire philosophy of the material is about that all separation in-between things is illusory. While they differ in how you are having your experience, it does not mean that you cannot act in a way that resonates with higher densities down here. For example, one may think that you cannot be compassionate here on Earth, while it is extremely welcome by countless people. The lesson instead could be that you cannot force compassion upon another that does not desire it and this is what would be in alignment with the way of higher densities, to be considerate of the other in your interactions as part of your compassion.

The main difference I would say resides in that a big theme in being human is to experience confusion and get wounded through it. This impacts greatly our behaviors with others and taints them. Others are also confused and wounded, which in turn also affects their behaviors with us and taints them. Then as the densities represent a hierarchy in the evolution of consciousness, one may understand that the ways of higher densities are merely with a greater degree of clarity and comprehension in regard to the nature of both oneself and others.

This might be the hardest to accept. If we do not fight against those who rules us who stops them? I am aware of what Jesus said about handling occupation.
He said: "He advises his followers to overcome Roman oppression with creativity and kindness. If a Roman soldier conscripts you into carrying his bags, don’t just take them the legally required limit, carry them the extra mile."

This didn't work obviously. As you know, Rome eventually captured Jesus and crucified him . It seems that the executioners had a lot of vicious fun with him, as they mocked him with a crown of thorns, a robe, and a “coronation walk” where he was forced to carry the cross he would be crucified on.

And now look, Jesus teachings have been peverted and the Vatican/Jesuits are one of the most powerful organizations of the world(I mean that in a bad way).

The material called Jesus's martyrdom an end of opportunity for those who seek further. So while Jesus might be a great example for many things, it is not the perfect example either.

Why bother? with anything. Nothing in this world matters. It might matter for the world after this one but not here. All you do here is fight against ebb and tide. An endless cycle of violence.

The only problem I seem to have with this is if you are with your family and friends.I can handle not having the gold of this world but can they? As the common saying goes pyrite is fools gold.
I'm not sure I'd be able to see people I love suffer because they refuse to take part in a corrupt system.I know we only have to be 51 % STO but you know in my opinion it's just as hard as being 95%. There's no point trying to live from your heart if you are willing trampling on others in order to get a comfortable life. We live with riches because we take from others. Don't try to sell me anything. This is the matrix we're talking about, not some fantasy.

While you could say there are evils within our system, I think it is demonized far too much by too many people. Everyone requires resources to live and everyone requires to work for their survival, that is the way of nature and not anything humans have thought up. We have come to a system where we can make many complex things that no one could make on their own, we have made available for everyone to have a variety of ways to provide to the needs of others upon something they are willing to trade for. Sure there is a lot of corruption in many places, but it is quite possible to make a honest living. You cannot pluck an apple from a tree without there being one less apple, that is simply the way the heavens shaped our world.

Okay let's take an extreme example. Say you are in a post apocalyptic scenario and you and your family come across a bunch of thieves and worse....you know the only way to get trough this is to take your guns and use them in a lethal manner. It's a one way street. Either you do it or you get enslaved. What do you do?


25.5 Questioner: You spoke of an Orion Confederation and a battle being fought between the Confederation and the Orion Confederation. Is it possible to convey any concept of how this battle is fought?

Ra: I am Ra. Picture, if you will, your mind. Picture it then in total unity with all other minds of your society. You are then single-minded and that which is a weak electrical charge in your physical illusion is now an enormously powerful machine whereby thoughts may be projected as things.
In this endeavor the Orion group charges or attacks the Confederation arms with light. The result, a stand-off, as you would call it, both energies being somewhat depleted by this and needing to regroup; the negative depleted through failure to manipulate, the positive depleted through failure to accept that which is given.

25.6 Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you said by “failure to accept that which is given?”

Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.
This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.
It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.
It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.

Defending yourself in this world....what would that turn you into?

That depends entirely upon the state of your heart. Survival instincts are for starters rooted within your body and mind, so acting in self defense may not even be a polarized action because it is the other party that initiates the threat and it is within your red ray to have a drive for your family's survival.

I think the challenge is kind of always to not take things personally (applies to all relationship dilemmas). If you have to defend yourself and it gets to a point where you kill the other party, what was the energy behind it? Was it merely fear? Was it hatred? Or was it maybe sadness? I think you can remain positively polarized in this scenario through the later, as you did not want to kill the other party unless forced to, you did not hate them and you even felt compassion with an open heart for them to the extent that you feel a sorrow for their death. In a way, you could feel like you were left with no choice. While an open heart can love them unconditionally, this does not imply that you cannot also love yourself and your family unconditionally. Sure like in the Ra quote, that may be depolarizing and require further balancing on your part to accept the event and regain your previous degree of polarity which had never faced such a catalyst, but that does not mean in any way that you are polarizing negatively either.

This might be an extreme example but you can apply it into all areas of life. As you can quickly see this isn't a way to live in this world. To be of service to others is to be a loser in the physical ascpects of life.  Or does being STO allow you to defend yourself everytime you are attacked?
Then you'd have to carefully pick your battles so that you may win them. This quickly goes into STS-thinking.
Buddha once said that if you are given a gift and do not accept it it goes back to the one who bought it for you. Similary you can repel attacks and insults.  Does that mean you should just let yourself get beaten down? I know you can control your emotional response but still. How could you allow your body to endure such suffering? It is just as much a part of you as is your soul.
Do any of you accept that like Jesus did? I doubt it.

I'm not sure if I'm capable of accepting that.

Like said above, it is all about never taking anything personal and the other-selves merely act as mirrors upon the self. Whatever they stir within you comes from your own state of imbalance, if you were in a state of balance you would instead be unfazed and merely an observer of their state of imbalance. If someone is pushing you to an extent that you cannot handle it, the correct response is to act and later you may balance in mediation your response. If you do not take it personally, then you can come to ask yourself why was I affected so much by what this person said? Did this hit insecurities I have with myself? If so, why do I have these insecurities and how can I make use of this opportunity to maybe alter my own perception of myself into not being bound by this energy anymore. Then through this work, if the situation happened anew, the other person would not have the same power to hurt you, possibly leaving them unfulfilled in even trying to anymore.

The way of catalyst is that charges that resonate together attract one another to offer an opportunity for growth on both sides. It is easy to always cast the blame upon another without reconsidering one's own position within the event, but you are an actor of the dance. Different people attract different kind of situations to themselves, we all have our own patterns to work with.

I think what would be most useful is to not have a fixed conception of what STO and STS polarity implies. Even in the material it says they used these terms due to our distortions towards perceiving concepts relating to philosophy in terms of ethics or activity. Even within the Universe, polarity is not a finite concept and instead an ever expanding and growing one. No one on this forum is anywhere near fully comprehending what polarity really is, nor do I think it is even possible to. What I personally believe is that STO does not mean to be weak and a loser, it is instead a form of growth in which the self is empowered in its inner being to crystalize and radiate a greater and purer energy. There is no unique path to go about this growth, instead it really is events and catalysts that offer the opportunity for our will to realize itself and carve its own path.