12-15-2020, 01:10 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-15-2020, 01:41 AM by throwawaynegative132.)
(12-14-2020, 10:12 PM)jafar Wrote:Khan accepted the child that was birthed by his wife as his own when noone else would. He wanted to rest and live a quite life. It was his wife that was filled with rage, she pushed him onto that path. If you look at Khans policies you will quickly realize he wasn't as negative as the world made him out to be. This applies to a great deal of todays elite. They are simply not evil enough. Hency why Khan is just a shipping clerk. You ever wonder what became of his first wife? The one that was known as the Grand Empress?(12-14-2020, 07:42 AM)Louisabell Wrote: Ok - serious question ... doesn't anyone think that there may be some "trickery afoot" when it comes to progressing on the STS path?
Example - you live your 3D existence busting your butt to build up this godly ego, only then to graduate as a pleb into a 4D negative social-memory-complex with a 5D entity at its head. You go from being Genghis Khan, greatest warlord that ever lived, to ... a shipping clerk
Quote:11.15 ... Ra: I am Ra. ... He is, as you would term this entity, a shipping clerk.
Like it has to be some kind of joke right?
Hmm yes..
But that is nothing new for Temujin...
He started out as a little boy in a small tribe, watching his dad got murdered, abandoned and betrayed by his own tribe, tortured and enslaved by other tribe, wife got kidnapped, raped and pregnant by the seed of her kidnapper.
Through experiencing pain, hardship, humiliation and fear he will built his power to the top, as he has did before.
For 'the negs' all of the fear and hate based experience is a catalyst to become stronger.
He might serve his current master now, out of fear, as 'shipping clerk' but after he gained enough strength eventually he will lay out a 'coup' to his own master to become the new master. Only to find out that there's another master up in the hierarchy, and the cycle repeat as he works his way to the top of the hierarchy.
Quote:And yes, I admit to totally projecting my own fears onto this equation. I hate the concept of a STS path, I wish it was never mentioned in the LOO, which was supposed to be a philosophy of unity, not duality. All this focus on duality has given me this ridiculous irrational fear that I'll somehow graduate to 4D negative, unwittingly. I have no idea why I can't shake this irrational fear, as I actually do really love people, that's never been all that hard for me.
Stay focus on the 'hate', the 'fear', the 'pain' and the 'anger' to explore the negative polarity...
3d density evil is not refined enough and you can't compare it to 4th density. Khan just like many others could have just as easily switched. There is as much good as there is evil in each and every one of us and if you take a look at Hitler's life you will see exactly the same pattern.
I say all of this because it is very tragic. The reason so many turn to the dark side is not because they are inherently evil but because the world simply broke them and more importantly it is the people who stand by and do nothing while evil is commited proclaiming themselves to be good. They are the true wolves in sheeps clothing. The undecided who are cast into Dantes Inferno.
"Villains, crafted by the neglect of their good deeds, formed by rejection of their righteous intentions, and completed by the swift hammer of judgement of their pure souls. It is not that they were born with blackened hearts, but it was the world they tried to help that eclipsed the last bit of light that remained in their spirits. Villains are forgotten heroes, rejected saviors, good people who were neglected by those they loved."
(12-14-2020, 11:13 PM)Louisabell Wrote:(12-14-2020, 10:31 PM)Minyatur Wrote: To be honest, I think the STS path is much more complex and varied than some make it sound like. Then again, we are in an experiment within which the biggest thematic is confusion, so it might be understandable that both what this path is and its expression is highly distorted from its actual essence.
Choosing a path to me is ultimately about building up a conviction in one's own exploration of oneself. Through distillment, it surely always leads to an embrace of all because that is what your self is and which you come to better realize as your ability of perception grows with time. Meaning, the STS path is not wrong in want it stands for, outside that it holds upon paradoxes of perception born from the multiple layers of illusions that make up our experience. Much like the STO path you could say. Both paths ultimately are equally a paradoxical dance, just that the transcendence of this play, or game, requires an internalization of completeness within the self, as inevitably comes a realization that you are truly all things. In knowledge of Oneness, it is a certainty that moving through the STS path as an other-self is actually the right choice in whatever circumstances it occurs. It might not be your current immediate right choice to yourself, nor something you like to think about, but the nuances that generate the nexus of where your other-self is, as you in external circumstances, making this choice make it rightful and reflect the truth of it to yourself. The entirety of existence, in all its forms, is already the answer to it all. The past is never invalidated, it merely transforms through growth.
Technically speaking, the only way you could "help" someone off the negative path into moving toward the positive one, is to offer them unbiased complete acceptance. If you just make fun of what it is, or render unjust to have a leaning towards it, then you are clearly just reinforcing the darkness through your own needs of distilling the shadow portions of yourself that you fail to recognize as being an integral part of yourself. On the other hand, offering acceptance of the rightfulness of where someone is at, offers this being the choice to receive this energy of acceptance and in turn touch healing.
It is fine to strive toward the light, just that one has to be wary to not cast their own shadows in the process and reinforce the darkness to seek to see disappear.
Very asute observations Minyatur. I do not deny that I have shadow aspects, that I have fears. I am human.
Just to be clear, it is not my intention to 'help' anyone off their chosen path, or invalidating the STS path altogether. It is my perception (at least) that actually, I am affording it the weight it deserves.
In my estimation, pity is wasted on the STS path adherent. Indeed this entity is facing a long path with a great deal of challenge before it. And so, if my feeble and humble challenges (which are only based in the truth as I see it) are enough to sway such an entity, then may that speak for itself.
I will say this. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Ignorance and Arrogance are the worst of attributes one can have. There is nothing wrong with the STS path and it is not longer nor harder than the STO path. That was a generalization made. Ra and the others often make generalization but the amount of time an entity spends on either path is entirely dependant upon the individual. If it wasn't for the veil you'd all still be here drowning yourselves in an ocean of love instead of progressing in your spiritual evolution. There is as much bullshit on the positive path as there is on the negative. It is that which is refined over a long period of time on both sides. What truly matters is only which path is more efficent and the fastest way towards the creator for said individual and that's what I'm truly trying to find out. Judging either path as worse or better is just arrogant and not only that but a denial of the underlying unity of all. Duality is a illusion.
7.15
The Law of One blinks neither at the light or the darkness....
P.S. I know I shouldn't be so angry at this because it takes bias to polarize towards either side but still I just felt that I had to point out the underlying fundamental truth of it all even when it is sometimes necesssary to see it in a very very distorted way to polarize. Both STS and STO entities have that bias. Most do for without it they have difficulty in grasping how to serve the creator by just staying on one side/half. I'm pretty sure this was mentioned in llresearch and described in much much more detail but I can't find the quote.
For example fourth density believes in fighting wars amongst each other but in fith density that turns out to be a delusion, similarly it turns out that in mid 6th density there were no two paths. All is one after all.