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    Thread: What is the purpose of a sociopath?


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    12-02-2020, 01:38 PM
    (12-02-2020, 07:35 AM)J.W. Wrote: You know, I normally would use my ability to dissect your energy. In example, I feel that you are a young soul, and your vessel is in it's 20s or a little younger.

    You have my permission to dissect my energy.
    Go for it..

    But you're definitely mistaken about the age of my current vessel.

    Quote:You seem to don't really "listen" or selectively chooses responses that only serves one perspective, and it is yours.

    It seems that such opinion came out because you held such view?


    Quote:You can "act" like an animal as much as you like, but you won't "become" one, because you're not...

    Human is an animal.. an evolved animal..
    But since you've briefly mentioned about 'dissecting energy', try to dissect the energy of a dog or cat or snails or tree and experienced it yourself.

    Quote:You don't simply "find" sociopathic/psychopathic behavior in yourself. Even if it is a "philosophical" or "spiritual" standpoint, because it is most like a choice "pre-incarnate" unless, you chose the same thing.

    Sociopathic / psychopatic is merely a label for a phenomenon.

    You seem to be in the opinion that 'body' dictate the 'spirit'.
    Which is a common view in today's medical world.

    While I'm more towards 'spirit' dictate the body.
    And the state of the spirit can change how the physical body works.

    It's true that there are hormones that can be triggered to entice empathy.
    And the lack of it can cause one with difficulty to experience empathy.
    But when the spirit truly wish to experience empathy, then the body will produce it.
    I'm more on this opinion.

    And what I'm saying was you can find STS characteristic (and also STO characteristic) within your own self.
    By understanding it within you, you can use it to understand other beings which are more lenient towards STSes characteristic (or STOs characteristic).

    Quote:"Shadow work" is not what you make out to be....

    And maybe you can explain it more layman terms, based on your own life experience?

    Quote:But a trick that Negative polarity uses to blind awakening seekers is exactly what you stated.
    Kindly explain what are the 'trick' that 'negative' polarity uses to 'blind' awakening seekers?

    Quote:I don't think you're that naive enough to thinks that right or wrong "choices" is fine because "in the end #unity"That mentality would get you in a lot of trouble in society, and the justice system will be seeing you often. You are making "choices" whether you thinks "right/wrong" means nothing to you.

    What I find is that STSes lenient people like to make trouble with whomever or whatever.
    Including (if not especially) with other STSes...

    STOs can also have trouble, especially within STSes lenient system.
    So trouble is not necessarily a 'bad' thing, need to dive into details on case by case basis.

    I've given you an example of a Private who have problems with military system because he refused to shoot a civilian.
    That's based on a true story.

    But I also got the sense that you given me a kind of 'warning' here?
    That I might have trouble in society and justice system?

    Thank you for that, but please allow me to share my life experience so far.. experience is after all the best teacher isn't it?
    There's a huge difference between knowing and experiencing...

    Based on my experience so far, I haven't had any trouble with justice system.
    Other than ticketing fines due to violating some traffic sign out of mistakes.
    However I do aware that those traffic sign was put there for safety reason.
    My mistake, I didn't saw it.. pay the fines...

    I did encountered trouble on few organization that I've worked with.
    I worked within an organization where the leader is 'agitated' most of the time. Bursting into anger or issuing threat is a common occurrence. I also observed that he 'drink' a lot. Let's named him James.. not his real name though.

    In one of his 'drinking' occasion I decided to join him, alcohol has weird effect of 'lowering self-control', a kind of 'truth serum'. In short I managed to get few 'wisdom' from James:
    - "In order to get 150% capability out of our team we need to make them be put inside a situation where their survival depends on it".
    Ah.. I wondered.. that's why he issues "firing" threat so often to the employee...
    - "Fear is the best mechanism to control people behavior".
    Ah.. again it relate to the 'survival' wisdom.. but he's correct, fear can drive and control people behavior.

    He also complained a lot about how he was treated by his superior.. in short his superior treated him in the same manner as he treat his own men. #threat, #fear, #survival_mode.  So this is a kind of trickled down effect from the top.

    He also lamented on his discomfort on what he has become, and some time even bursting into cry and sometimes anger. Alcohol does have weird effect on self control.

    Many months gone by, and I grew more and more discomfort within the organization.
    I never received any 'direct' threat from James, but constantly become the 'center' of 'emotional cauldron' from other employees.  I always advised them if you're uncomfortable here then better resign and find other places to work.
    Many of them reply with "I would if I do have better place to work, but I can't stand James anymore now".
    Then better resign tomorrow.. I replied..
    They usually answered with, but I need the money to sustain my family, if I don't have work, what should I do?

    Again 'fear' is at play here... they insist on staying in a place that they don't like to be out of fear of their future.

    From my side, I do try to help those 'discomforted employee'  through contacting people within my network, whether they have open position available. Some of them got it and left.. some of them didn't thus stay.

    I didn't bothered to tell the James of what's going on, because I knew that he know about it already. His 'goal' of 'putting people inside a situation where their survival depends on it' has been achieved.

    And then the moment came where it's my turn.
    James issues the firing threat to me... he gave me an ultimatum of "improving your performance within 3 months otherwise you will be fired!".
    At first I was 'agitated'.. but then I understand the situation better.
    I replied with "Thank you James, I resigned from this company as of today".

    Do I already have another job at that moment?
    The answer is no, but that fear is actually baseless..  it's the fear that we all need to face head on anyway...
    And I share that fact to other 'discomforted employee' as well.. when they asked how did I dare to took such step.
    Such fear is actually baseless you just need to face such fear head on as through that fear you're actually being controlled out of your own free will.

    Within the next 4 weeks I found out that at least 6 other employees followed my action, resigning from the company.

    Surprisingly I found another job at better place, with higher pay and better environment just within 2 weeks.

    Looking back on that specific experience.

    Do I hate James?.. no.. James is one of my best teacher about fear.. and through him he has helped me to find courage.
    I also understand where does James anger, fear and aggressiveness came from.
    He does work tirelessly, full of determination, not giving up easily, he always have more 'energy' to spend than others.
    Through him I also appreciate the effect of 'negative emotions'..

    And oh yes James tries to beat the 'system' many times, tax fraud, double book-keeping, bribery nothing is unreachable for him. And he always felt a sense of 'pride' on whenever he beat our business competitor or even fool the auditor as if confirming that he's more superior / smarter than they are.

    And sometimes I can also share the same 'exciting emotion/experience' as he experienced, whenever we beat our business competitor or even when he managed to fool the auditor.

    Through James I can gain more understanding about 'negative characteristic' and STSes.
    I thank him for that....
    In his weird way, he has helped me to become a 'better' person, at least from my perspective, to be more authentic person. If he called me up for a drink, I will certainly accept. Unfortunately he hasn't as of now.
    I only wish James can find the same courage within him and face his own fear.. maybe he has now.. but I'm sure that he eventually will, it just a matter of time.

    There are many other of my life experiences regarding 'negative characteristic' and STSes, but this thread will be too long.. if I share all of it.

    Quote:Welcome to the forum, hang around, you might find what you're looking for. Unless, you know it all already.
    Thank you.. looking forward for new experiences.
    As there are is a huge difference between 'knowing' and 'experiencing'.

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    What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by RaEatsFoodstuffs - 11-21-2020, 08:13 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Patrick - 11-21-2020, 09:54 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Dtris - 11-22-2020, 09:27 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by jafar - 11-29-2020, 04:23 AM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by flofrog - 11-29-2020, 05:05 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by jafar - 11-30-2020, 04:42 AM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by J.W. - 11-30-2020, 02:21 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by jafar - 11-30-2020, 04:48 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by J.W. - 12-01-2020, 03:35 AM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by jafar - 12-02-2020, 06:22 AM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Ohr Ein Sof - 12-02-2020, 07:54 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Ohr Ein Sof - 12-02-2020, 07:51 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by J.W. - 12-02-2020, 07:35 AM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by jafar - 12-02-2020, 01:38 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Patrick - 12-02-2020, 11:30 AM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by J.W. - 12-02-2020, 04:42 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Sacred Fool - 12-02-2020, 01:59 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by J.W. - 12-02-2020, 04:06 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Plenum - 12-02-2020, 02:39 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by J.W. - 12-02-2020, 04:19 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Glow - 12-05-2020, 03:18 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Diana - 12-06-2020, 02:27 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by Aion - 12-06-2020, 03:39 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by unity100 - 12-05-2020, 04:13 PM
    RE: What is the purpose of a sociopath? - by jafar - 12-06-2020, 02:39 AM

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