(05-15-2009, 10:27 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: I would now like to share DWs interpretation that ultimately caused me to quit reading his treatise, and I have not looked at it since until we started discussing it on this website.
David Wilcock Wrote:A GENERATION OF 2D IS 900 YEARS
Now when we gate back into our previous excerpt from Session 40, Don again brings this figure of a generation and a half up. Then Ra further clarifies.
Questioner: How long was the time of transition on this planet between second and third-density? A generation and a half I believe. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct, the time measured in your years being approximately 1,350.
DW: Interesting. This means that a "generation" of second density is 900 years of our time.
I think this is a misinterpretation. It had already been established that human lifespans were around 900 years:
Ra: I am Ra. At the beginning of this particular portion of your space/time continuum the average life span was approximately nine hundred of your years.
Don did not explicitly say 'a generation and a half of animal life' but, since they were discussing animal lives, it was assumed that Ra's answer was referring to animal lifetimes.
It makes more sense to me that Don was simply measuring a length of time in terms of the lifespans of that era. This is speculation on my part. But the statement just doesn't make sense in terms of animal lifespans, being that plants and animals are all 2D until they reach sentience, with varying lifespans. A fruitfly lives only days, if I remember correctly, cats might live a couple of decades, and turtles might live hundreds of years. I just can't believe Ra would have meant that ALL 2D lifeforms would have the SAME lifespan - a fruitfly the same as an elephant? That's just not plausible. Also, animals have this habit of eating one another, which has the unfortunate effect of shortening their lives. So unless the lions were lying beside the lambs back then, I just don't see it.
Hence, I disagree with DW's interpretation because it's simply not plausible.
(05-15-2009, 10:27 AM)3D Sunset Wrote:David Wilcock Wrote:TIME HAS SPED UP — POSSIBLY 100 TIMES FASTER
Are you paying attention? This strongly implies that time as we know it has DRAMATICALLY sped up between second and third-density. We already know that in third-density the average animal's life is probably 9 years at best.
Ra secretly has slipped in the fact that time started going at least 100 times faster in 3D than it was in 2D!
This means that the actual RATE at which a creature lives out its life increased by 100 times. This is consistent with other reports I've seen of the variability of time.
WHOA, this is stacking assumption on top of assumption.
(05-15-2009, 10:27 AM)3D Sunset Wrote:David Wilcock Wrote:Therefore, such a speeding-up should happen again when we go into 4D — but if our time is going faster now than it was before, the time period should be a lot less than 1350 years.
HOW FAST WILL WE TRANSITION INTO FOURTH DENSITY?
If it were to happen ten times faster than before, that's a target window of 135 years. That's actually not a bad guess based on the real material in the text. Let's read Don's question and get the answer:
Again, quite a stretch, imho. DW is certainly entitled to his opinion. I think there is a huge amount of assumption here...with lots of If's and should's.
Being that this statement by Ra is so conclusive, I just don't think such iffy guesses are sufficient to override definitive statements by Ra.
Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?
Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process.
At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.
Read this carefully. Don asked "Then what will be..." indicating what will happen in the future...not what had already been happening since some arbitrary date in the past whose significance is based on iffy guesses. Sure, 1936 might have some significance, but so do lots of other dates. Undoubtedly the date of the Roswell crash had significance...the date of John Lennon's assassination, and myriad other pivotal moments. I just don't think DW's case about the transition being nearly at its end is strong enough to override (what seem to me to be) some very clear statements by Ra.
Many of Ra's statements are indeed subject to interpretation. I just don't think this is one of them.
For DW to make so light of it, by saying:
DW: Here is the one and ONLY 'gradualist' quote in the entire Law of One series. You just read the ONE quote that has created the WHOLE PROBLEM everyone's arguing about.
...seems almost flippant. To disregard a statement so definitive, in favor of speculation based on what seem to me to be loosely linked guesses, just seems like a wild stretch to me.
Quote:Ra, Book III, Session 63
Questioner: Then at some time in the future the fourth-density sphere will be fully activated. What is the difference between full activation and partial activation for this sphere?
Ra: I am Ra. At this time the cosmic influxes are conducive to true color green core particles being formed and material of this nature thus being formed. However, there is a mixture of the yellow-ray and green-ray environments at this time necessitating the birthing of transitional mind/body/spirit complex types of energy distortions. At full activation of the true color green density of love the planetary sphere will be solid and inhabitable upon its own and the birthing that takes place will have been transformed through the process of time, shall we say, to the appropriate type of vehicle to appreciate in full the fourth-density planetary environment. At this nexus the green-ray environment exists to a far greater extent in time/space than in space/time.
Questioner: Could you describe the difference that you are speaking of with respect to time/space and space/time?
Ra: I am Ra. For the sake of your understanding we will use the working definition of inner planes. There is a great deal of subtlety invested in this sound vibration complex, but it, by itself, will perhaps fulfill your present need.
Questioner: I will make this statement and have you correct me. What we have is, as our planet is spiraled by the spiraling action of the entire major galaxy and our planetary system spirals into the new position, the fourth density vibrations becoming more and more pronounced. These atomic core vibrations begin to create, more and more completely, the fourth density sphere and the fourth-density bodily complexes for inhabitation of that sphere. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. To be corrected is the concept of the creation of green-ray density bodily complexes. This creation will be gradual and will take place beginning with your third-density type of physical vehicle and, through the means of bisexual reproduction, become by evolutionary processes, the fourth-density body complexes.
Questioner: Then are these entities of whom we have spoken, the third density harvestable who have been transferred, the ones who then will, by bisexual reproduction, create the fourth-density complexes that are necessary?
Ra: I am Ra. The influxes of true color green energy complexes will more and more create the conditions in which the atomic structure of cells of bodily complexes is that of the density of love. The mind/body/spirit complexes inhabiting these physical vehicles will be, and to some extent, are, those of whom you spoke and, as harvest is completed, the harvested entities of this planetary influence.
As you can see in the above quote, this is indeed another 'gradualist' quote...mention of 'evolutionary processes' sounds rather gradual to me...so the '100 to 700 years' quote is certainly not the only one.