11-12-2020, 01:41 AM
(11-10-2020, 03:15 PM)peregrine Wrote: I'm so glad, jafar, that you mentioned that your conceptual framework for this stuff is built around what you learned about D.I.D. Up until that point I really couldn't follow you, but this now makes a lot of sense to me. You see, when I was of high school age, learning about what was then called Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) was very significant indicator to me that consciousness is far, far more interesting--and powerful--than we are casually led to believe.
So, given something of a shared background, I would say the following about how I understand these two models converge or overlap (MPD and the Ra/Q'uo readings).
The critical elements I would point to distinguishing the idea of the soul which has many incarnative experiences from the person who has many personalities are these. (1) The soul purposely incarnates in different contextual environments in order to gain further experience as it grows in spiritual maturity, whereas MPD is brought on by severe trauma and is unintentional. (2) The incarnations of the soul--such as you yourself right now--are in the process of developing spiritual awareness wholly independent, usually, of the other incarnated selves; however, the multiples, being fractured bits of one composite personality, DO NOT (as I understand it) grow spiritually on their own at all. Rather, the composite individual may grow as the multiples are glued back together, so to speak.
And so, the business of stitching together the multiples in a patient is important for that patient's mental health on the Earth-plane level, but the assembling of the soul's incarnations happens at the level of the higher self in late 6D and is not our worry here in 3D. However, having contact with the soul, with spirit guides, etc. can be very useful, depending upon what kind of service one wishes to offer. And, in contrast with the MPD/DID situation, this is all about exploring finer capacities of consciousness, and not so much about organizing one's basic experience of 3D life.
I hope that provides some avenues of thought for you.
My current view of 'soul' is a 'scoped / finite unit of consciousness'.
Consciousness were never being created thus shall never be destroyed.
The 'scope' of consciousness however can be created through identification / fragmentation and can also be merged.
The technical mechanism is governed mostly by 'access to memory / data' that's what I understood when Ra mentioned something like 'social memory complex'.
My journey didn't start with Ra's material, I actually found it just recently, somewhere around last year. But when I read it I found a material which resonate well with my 'findings'. And I can somehow understood the 'angle' from which the author describe things.
My journey started with personal experiences and thus experimentation with identifying and de-identifying. For example: How or why I can call the figure that I see in the mirror as me, but not millions of bacterias and cellular lifeforms living inside of it. Why I call specific nationality as my nationality, specific race as my race, specific tradition as my tradition, specific religion as my religion, specific football club as my football club and so on and so on...
Yes D.I.D and M.P.D, hmmm let's drop the last D shall we, because truly it was not a 'disorder' at all, it happened naturally in multiple form. The D.I and M.P or fragmentation and merging of consciousness happened all the time with every-'one'. That's the process which makes 'one' into many 'one' thus the word some'one' and every'one' was invented in the first place.
I experienced M.P by experimenting with avatars in webforums.. created multiple avatars, each with different background and characteristics. And I also sometimes makes them involved in an argument with each others. To those unknowing, they see a dialogue, while actually it's a monologue. Me arguing with myself, through different avatars.
And what makes you think that 'peregrine' and 'jafar' is a different 'one' ?
Why not explore the possibility that the 'dialogue' between 'peregrine' and 'jafar' is actually a monologue as well?
This is among the 'angle' to explore the concept of 'unity'.
The person that you hate, the person that you just don't understand, the enemy, every'one' which you labeled as 'them' might be actually 'you' as well.
The one that hinder 'you' from identifying yourself with 'them' is merely limitation of access to their experiences or memory.
This is what happened when some'one' claimed on experiencing 'past lives'.
A good example, as told by Jurgen Ziewe based on his own experience.
https://youtu.be/fWYw59UCsJs?t=648
What happened to him, was he has access to memory of life experiences as experienced by other 'one', other 'avatar', other personalities. The moment he has access to the memory, he then identify himself to those personalities as well, in addition to his identification with the avatar named Jurgen Ziewe. And since the 'time dimension' is different, it's in the 'past' he calls it as 'past lives'.
And since time, in absolute reality, is not linear and actually don't exist.
The same process is validly possible to happened in not linear manner, what governed it is merely 'border of information' or using IT term 'firewall access to memory' of experiences.
When you or I happened to have access to memory of experiences as experienced by Donald Trump for example, you and I will identify 'me' as Donald Trump as well, and gain understanding of all facets of his life and character. All of his action and saying which was thought to be 'bizarre' and 'strange' suddenly become 'sensible' because you and I understand everything about the avatar called Donald Trump.
The same thing goes to "Genghis Khan" or other avatars which was labeled as "STS" or "negative entities".
Thus a 'soul' is merely a conception of 'scoped consciousness' bordered with limitation of access to information / memory. Produced through the process of 'identification'.
"I used to be a guy who was experiencing the Universe, but now I feel like the Universe experiencing a guy"
- Jim Carrey.