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    10-20-2020, 02:42 PM
    I think we're entangling two different things here, the inner path and the outer path.

    https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0106.aspx Wrote:Your question for beginning this evening is about the contrast between two words that, on the surface of it, mean very much the same thing in your language: religion and spirituality. Religion might also be called the outer path and spirituality might also be called the inner path in order to point up the basic point of tension between these two terms.

    One distinction between inner and outer approaches is that in one a person is far more involved in the magic of the present moment and much less burdened by theory.

    https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0531.aspx Wrote:Questioner: Yes. From what I understood of what you said before, it sounds like all systems, philosophies, religions and principles that we in our density follow arise out of the present moment and are presentations of that present moment. In order for us to be able to continually relate to these, in a certain sense we need to come back to the present moment and revive them from that present moment. As soon as we try to codify them, put them into words, and then study the words, we are no longer in the present moment and they loose some of their validity. Is that a correct understanding?

    I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. We would agree that you have well stated that which we have spoken in regards to this afternoon, for it is the great strength of your intellectual mind that it may analyze and observe many phenomena and relate them in an infinite fashion. Yet, in all this complexity, there is the tendency to move one’s experience from the moment in which all occurs to a distant and objective reality that is created by this work of conceptualization and relation. Thus, we have suggested that it is well to leave that kind of mentation for a time in each diurnal experience for the practice of that which you call meditation, in order that the mind might be quieted, be brought back to its source and experienced in its new and untouched fashion, thus opening to the meditator the doors of perception of the present moment.

    Very often the initial teachings of a religion are STO in the present moment, but become STS as they become codified and hammered into doctrine, in my view.  Make of it what yo will.
      

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    jewish mysticism - by flow - 10-18-2020, 05:05 AM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Aion - 10-18-2020, 10:40 AM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by flow - 10-18-2020, 12:05 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Dtris - 10-18-2020, 01:56 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Glow - 10-18-2020, 06:55 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by flow - 10-18-2020, 10:10 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Aion - 10-18-2020, 10:20 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Dtris - 10-19-2020, 06:53 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by flow - 10-20-2020, 03:31 AM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Sacred Fool - 10-20-2020, 11:48 AM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Aion - 10-18-2020, 10:17 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Aion - 10-18-2020, 10:51 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Aion - 10-18-2020, 11:49 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by flow - 10-20-2020, 12:16 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Sacred Fool - 10-20-2020, 12:50 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by flow - 10-20-2020, 01:36 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Dtris - 10-21-2020, 10:18 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Sacred Fool - 10-20-2020, 02:42 PM
    RE: jewish mysticism - by Aion - 10-22-2020, 02:58 AM

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