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    09-26-2020, 07:01 AM
    Q'uo's words have beauty in them, but I don't think they're very practical for 3rd density existence. Such faith encounters a lot of stumbling blocks here, and I personally have not managed to be able to live by it in the way Q'uo describe.

    Contrary to what Q'uo say, I find that having some form of belief is an absolute necessity in order to develop faith. I feel that the most obvious example of this is the notion of the existence of an after-life. All of us come into this world having no idea whether there is even anything after death. Choosing to believe, by faith, that there is indeed something else, and that there is a deeper meaning to life, already entails belief.

    Once we take within ourselves this initial belief, there are even more beliefs or sub-beliefs that we must choose or reject within ourselves. Simply believing in a metaphysical reality doesn't say much about our polarity. The more important questions, I feel, are: If there is a Creator, is this a loving and compassionate Creator? Or an authoritarian one? And if it is a loving Creator, what does it mean to be fully loving, exactly? It is the way in which we answer these questions what dictates the many different shades of polarity that can take place within ourselves.

    I have come to believe, in that sense, that faith is a matter of fantasizing. I don't mean that in a derogatory sense, but quite the opposite. We don't know or we don't remember what it is like to be loved by the Creator. For the most part, we can only fantasize about it. It is not a matter of how accurate our fantasies are in capturing the essence of the Creator, but rather, when these fantasies become beliefs that we live by, they become the lenses through which we see the world. In a sense, world religions are the collective fantasies that different groups of people have had regarding the nature of the Creator. Atheism is a fantasy too, in the sense that often times it is the product of a mind's desire to understand reality completely by logic and reason alone. In this sense, I consider fantasies and ideals to be extremely powerful tools in polarization, although also the very thing that can further keep one in the sinkhole of indifference.

    Ra:

    Quote:It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.

    The key is to make ourselves aware that a choice of belief is taking place, a belief that may be right or wrong, as opposed to deluding ourselves into thinking that we have come in possession of the undeniable truth. This is precisely what saves us from a dogmatic and intolerant kind of faith. And yet, this needs to be balanced with a determination and commitment to those values that have been chosen. It's a tough balance, for sure. But I strongly feel that we must still believe in something. If we don't make this choice of belief consciously, choosing the best and most wholesome of beliefs, our minds will make this choice for us, unconsciously, often times with a belief of less virtue, due to the necessity of the human mind to have a filter (any filter) through which to interpret life.
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    Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-15-2020, 12:35 AM
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    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Ray711 - 09-26-2020, 07:01 AM
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