(09-14-2020, 11:13 PM)peregrine Wrote:(09-14-2020, 09:20 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: But i like to say this. Satan has root hack access to human minds. Even adepts and channels. That means anyone or everhone is a satan spy or agent smith potentially. Now that is paranoia but also true.
This would be serious if it were in any way true. Funny that the Confederation sources seem to know nothing about this. I'm not sure they even know who your satan is.
Satan is the term humans call the Orion Empire's influences at the 3rd density/4th density, conquering weak worlds. Although that sounds more sci fi than War of Heaven.
It is ironic how you cannot see the truth even in these texts where Don writes on and on about questions and answers. The reason why "challenges" are necessary for contact/channeled entities is because somebody likes to deceive humans and pretend to be light entities when they are not.
Gee, I guess who "that" could be. Right, Heyl-El? Not to say it was Lucifer/Heyl-El, but the ancient prophets and psychics that were the originators of much (not all) of the holy scriptures, tended to get this idea that certain entities were pretending to be positive when they were not. Devils pretending to be angels of light. This got them so confused and paranoid, it was difficult to work with, especially as humanity had their own hatreds and fears to work through.
So you say peregrine, that the Confederation does not know Satan exists. Yet you have not penetrated the teachings enough to understand what it is you have been reading all this time. Is that not ironic? Switch the name around, call a negative entity Jesus and a positive entity, Orion, and suddenly humans at the 3rd density think they have reached Unity Truth.
No. That didn't happen yet.
(09-14-2020, 09:47 PM)Patrick Wrote:(09-14-2020, 09:20 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...Each density has a frequency veil. What is true for sixth, not for 4th. Law of One is non duality but we live in duality. Contradiction? Law of One violates identity principle. A is a. A cannot be b and a and c and d at same time. Law of One says no.
Words are distortions.
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0707.aspx
Quote:...we would suggest that one consider the possibility of translating into words a robin’s song so that the reader, upon reading the words, could successfully reproduce the musical notes.
My understanding is that what is true is true for all densities, but in each density we focus on different distortions of the same truths. Even to the point where we can perceive paradoxes, which actually have their solutions from a high enough vantage point to see the whole picture.
The quote seems to refer to source frequency, which is less distorted. Meaning, can you reverse engineer a language back to its sounds if you just had the writing?
So can a lower density, like 6th density iamraw collective, understand what 7th and 8th density is?
Quote: 81.16 Questioner: Ra states that it has knowledge of only this octave, but it seems that Ra has complete knowledge of this octave.
Can you tell me why this is?
Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we do not have complete knowledge of this octave. There are portions of the seventh density which, although described to us by our teachers, remain mysterious. Secondly, we have experienced a great deal of the available refining catalyst of this octave, and our teachers have worked with us most carefully that we may be one with all, that in turn our eventual returning to the great allness of creation shall be complete.
The answers seems to be .... NO.
They know there is a truth out there, but they cannot access it directly. They have to be passed this through their 7th density mentors. Obviously the collective is smart enough to verify much of this information, otherwise they wouldn't give it.
So on the 3rd density, it is likely the same, except more distorted. If a 7th density channel source came here and said one thing, and iamraw said something that seemed to have contradicted the 7th density channel, in 3rd density they would say iamraw has access to unity truth and is thus superior.
But that's missing the actual message here.
Yes, I think there are paradoxes that are resolved the closer we get to source, but this is the 3rd density or 4th even, so people have a long way to go back first.
So this idea that they have the truth, needs to be processed and challenged first.
Quote:Each of those which you have described, including, we might add, the anonymous writers, has been able to perceive with a varying degree of clarity that which exists beyond your realm of confusion, and in their perception have attempted to relay that image to their other selves in such a manner as to reproduce that perception. However, as you are aware, the reproduction of concept into words is quite difficult and often of poor result. We would therefore observe initially that the translation on each of the source’s part has been severely hampered by the inability to translate perception into words. As a further example, we would suggest that one consider the possibility of translating into words a robin’s song so that the reader, upon reading the words, could successfully reproduce the musical notes.
Yes, that seems accurate, via my verification process.
It helps that I have translated Japanese to English or vice a versa. Also using my own channel source, which is through myself and not another human, cutting out a middle person.
So if Buddha connects to intelligent infinity, somehow he has to translate it to another person, and even with telepathy and empathy, this is not 100% noloss.