To all Awakening Wanderers/Seekers.

[J.W.]

Alright, this post is now officially being attacked and derailed. I am going to do a purging ritual physically and in my following post, I am going spiritually expel any divergent or "overthinking" from all commentators, seekers and members. To realign the equilibrium of this post, which is my creation and taking full responsibility of it's direction.

I would like to Thank and give credits to Ymarsakar, for bringing me to the full realization on "methods" and "understanding" of the duality of polarity/intention/introspection and how the intertwining positive/negative polarities exist within a soul and all souls.

The philosophy behind this is, "Your observation serves you." Ymarsakar, I am sure you see it too as you reminded me about how I warn others about "them not seeing it."

That is a rabbit hole, and I am stopping it there without putting too much fuel into it. (from a positive perspective of course)

I am going to keep my next comment simple and to the point, to serve as a RESET of this mental maelstrom that seems to be leading the original intention of my post into disarray, misdirection, and confusion. From discussion about forum moderators leaving and how people should live their lives or do their jobs, this is not the original intention of this post.

All of this will be sorted out in my next response.

As for Black Dragon, you overthink too much about what I said. If I may assert and clarify with you.

I am not here to persuade ANYONE to do anything with their lives, or "martyrdom" themselves for the sake of STO.
This has been mentioned time after time from my response, I tell everyone that "YOU make your own choices."

How you perceive the "Information" I share was also left for your own interpretation and if it doesn't resonate with you. Leave it be. The moment you feel the urge from the bottom of your throat to refute and create conflicts, you lost your control over yourself and blinded to what my original intention.

The "underhanded" method you speak of is the same strategy Terrorist group use to have their "followers" go blow themselves up for good cause.

I see what you are doing, don't paint this post in this way, because that isn't my intention and you are perverting the original information in a darker light.
I don't know what your intention behind this is about, because once again, when I was being bias on my perspective, I openly spoke of it and apologize beforehand, and at the same time, I do not ask people to make a choice. These statements has been repeated continuously through my responses.

I am going to leave this conversation here and ending it, to avoid further "painting" and misdirection.

If you want to end the conversation, that's cool. I understand. Before that, I think I need to assert and clarify some things myself, to dispel the misunderstanding. Looking back, I sort of jumped the gun and came at this discussion a bit heavy-handed with my own perspectives and interpretation. That being said, the intention was never to paint or misdirect anything. Furthermore, I agree that your thread was derailed with all this rules/moderator talk, ironically, by people complaining of off-topic/derailment. I can totally see why you are frustrated and annoyed at that. I also did not accuse you of trying to promote a martyr mentality, I only tried to point out the potential danger of the opposite extreme of the one you pointed out.

You made a point about wanderers and people in general being concerned with their material needs and their own well being, of "getting something in return" to the point they lose sight of what really matters and operate in a somewhat STS manner. This is a legitimate point and concern, and I agree. I've even said as much. What I was trying to point out, for a better 360 degree view of STS tactics and wanderer pitfalls, was the other side of the coin, or opposite extreme that's just as bad, where wanderers feel they need to sacrifice and expend with no regard to their own physical, mental, and emotional well-being, or even feel unworthy of joy, comfort, or success.

Carla dealt to some degree with this concept of over-expenditure and unworthiness, and it is exactly because of what you said: a disconnect or separation of love and wisdom, the heart and the mind. You explained one way that can work, and I explained the flip side of the coin. I was hasty, opinionated, and may not have worded things the best, but my intention was not to refute, deny, or paint/misdirect any of your statements, but to EXPAND on them and give a more complete, holistic, 360 degree view of the ideas you presented.

What I shared are my own biases and perspectives, and I'm sorry it came off the wrong way to you. I feel strongly about my views and principles, and maybe that came off as hostility or argumentativeness. My intent here is not subversion, but clarity; examining every angle of a topic to get a more complete view. Once again, I'll admit I may have been heavy-handed and not worded or explained my views the best, and for that I sincerely apologize, but my intention was never to subvert, mislead, attack, or derail anything. If you continue to take it that way, that's your free will and there's nothing I can do to help the situation other than try to clarify and explain myself. I think I've done the best I can in that regard, how you receive it is out of my hands.

Black Dragon, It's alright, I never stop loving you for who you are.

I didn't "sense" a "pure" negative energy from what you said before, hence I said you might have "overthink" and I also mentioned that I am not 100% sure of the direction of your "martyrdom" explanation.

But this has been clarified in this response by you, therefore, I am humbly and sincerely appreciate your integrity and introspection. That is highly admirable and well received.

I am too going to follow your foot step and apologize for the words I choose that made you feel I accuse you of "derailment or painting"

The "derailment" observation is not just from your comment, but it is a general observation I made after realizing that my opinion is causing infringement on seekers and others. This is my mistake, my choice towards STO is mine and to discuss this openly and share my polarity is something I need to be careful of as it has negative consequences regarding infringing freewill.

This has been a humbling and great lesson for me. And I thank you and everyone that was involved.

With love and Light Black Dragon, may the lights and loves of the infinite creator guides both you and I.