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    Asolsutsesvyl Away

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    09-09-2020, 06:40 PM
    Hello J.W. For those new to the discussion, I link your mentioned older thread, "Rendezvous, It's time to regroup." What I have in mind comes in part from considering that.

    It's a fun coincidence that you happened to make the first post in this thread 5 years to the day after the beginning of my personal "wanderer's awakening".

    (08-06-2020, 06:20 PM)J.W. Wrote: To conclude this post, I would like to leave you with this

    https://montalk.net/matrix/118/methods-of-deception

    This link is credited to a member on this forum that goes by dreamoftheiris.

    he/she shows me this link in my previous post of "Rendezvous, its time to regroup." And I find it very informative and align with the information I am showing others.

    Please Identify the ploy and tactics of STS if you do not want to be falling under any form of manipulation/confusion/ and ultimately relinquishing your freewill BY your own freewill.

    They can't take your freewill away from you by force, but they can definitely make you give it up yourself.

    Be vigilant, be grounded, and stay true.

    I have been thinking a lot about higher-density STS methods and activity. Montalk is great in providing a resource for those new to serious exploration of that.

    Along with my background in and parting from the Cassiopaea community, I have, compared to Montalk, been working towards an updated and more complete view of what's really gone on in the case of the Cassiopaea community. Some of that is in my personal thread and some of that is in the thread, "Comparing Ra and the Cassiopaeans".

    I think there's a very general, and quite successful, higher-density STS strategy that's played out over decades in spiritual circles. The STS opposition works hard to separate the mind and the heart in individuals and groups, making the focus lopsided and counterproductive. It's often been wildly successful, because each bias makes for self-reinforcing ways of interpreting everything.

    And so, you can see the actively organizing research side of L/L Research having died with Don Elkins and so far not having recovered. The Cassiopaean Experiment filled the intellectual vacuum, while gradually replacing the spirituality with something slowly turning into the opposite.

    Montalk, in my view, is doing stuff that all too few have been doing. He does the research at a basic and very accessible level, in a serious exploration with both a heart and a mind. He covers not only the nicer stuff, but also less pleasant aspects of reality. The way in which he seems to have kept his balance on the whole is the really impressive part.

    This community tends to be a bit slow-going and scatter-minded, I have found, but is great as a place where inspiration can flow quite freely. It appears to have been under fire, psychically, from time to time over the past years. For a simple and humorous start concerning such matters in general, and another Montalk reference, there's my thread "Quantum Bogodynamics: why equipment fails and people behave mindlessly".

    (08-10-2020, 12:52 PM)peregrine Wrote: In ages past, this site was actively moderated and this thread would have been moved to the appropriate area, but in latter days the moderators have abandoned the ship and the organizational structure has become somewhat chaotic.

    That brings to mind some questions of what's going on at the site. It originally, before my time here, was much more focused around the topic of Ra-related things and the accompanying philosophy. In several steps, the focus became more general, and previously off-topic topics became fine to discuss.

    Much more recently, the moderators decided to be more lenient with views against the core philosophy of the community. That's after the old approach backfired when the member Cyan left. The thread about that event is peaceful, but soon after, some newcomers who believed Ra negative or disagreed with the basic philosophy repeated Cyan's idea that things may be too cult-like here, generally attacking things and letting the moderators "prove" that it's not a cult through non-intervention. That's another of those short emotional storms making a portion of members leave.

    Personally, I think:
    - The moderators earlier went after peaceful expression of dissenting views too much.
    - The moderators did too little earlier when emotional storms began to erupt and/or some felt bullied.
    - The moderators may be slowly self-sabotaging by not discussing the big picture openly when the direction of the community becomes uncertain.

    In other words, I think they focused too much on ideas and too little on emotional dynamics. More moderation of the latter could have avoided some emotional explosions, while too much restriction around ideas created others.

    Maybe the moderators ended up where they are now, in part, by listening too much over the years to some of those who both created much drama and complained the loudest. Each time, each change of direction, they painted themselves into a smaller part of the room until only a tiny corner remained. The corner seems to be, "Wait and see what happens next."

    I should note that this is a relative newcomer's perspective.
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    To all Awakening Wanderers/Seekers. - by J.W. - 08-06-2020, 06:20 PM
    RE: To all Awakening Wanderers/Seekers. - by sillypumpkins - 08-06-2020, 07:12 PM
    RE: To all Awakening Wanderers/Seekers. - by J.W. - 08-07-2020, 01:52 PM
    RE: To all Awakening Wanderers/Seekers. - by J.W. - 08-07-2020, 01:54 PM
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    RE: To all Awakening Wanderers/Seekers. - by J.W. - 08-07-2020, 07:02 PM
    RE: To all Awakening Wanderers/Seekers. - by Puya - 08-07-2020, 04:21 PM
    RE: To all Awakening Wanderers/Seekers. - by J.W. - 08-07-2020, 07:19 PM
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