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    07-14-2020, 05:51 PM
    To fill in more, and address the weakness of the comparison, I have been thinking more about what the current "establishment" is.

    Our world is not a grown-up higher-density Confederation world. Yet, it is within the sphere of the Confederation, as in growth towards a future proceeds under their umbrella and loose supervision.

    By contrast, there are messages from other sources claiming to be STO which present Earth as a "prison planet" mainly directed by 4D STS, and the role or even real existence of the Confederation is dismissed. The Cassiopaeans, for example, speak of a new world joyously being born after the painful destruction of most of what existed before, and the cosmos "cleaning house" on Earth so that the bad influences are swept away.

    Either way, this touches on the big old problem of why so much suffering and "evil" exists in this world. Obviously, it is not the case that positive beings directly decide what happens in this world, generally. There's also flaws in the "prison planet" explanations, according to which Earth is already part of the evil empire and the struggle is the struggle to break free. A third explanation, closer to Ra's but not quite the same, also exists, and partially bridges the gap towards "prison planet" explanations.

    Gurdjieff gave such an explanation, as recounted by P. D. Ouspensky. Most of the "evil" in this world is "mechanical evil", it happens because of a lack of conscious direction, instead of because of negative direction. This world is part of the creation with a positive logos above, but there's a distance filled by incompleteness, by something on the planetary or solar system level not having grown up. That's why things suck here, until the world itself, in a sense, grows up enough to become truly consciously directed. In the absence of consciousness, there's only mechanical laws and processes, and they make for painful and senseless life experiences.

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    4D populists - by Asolsutsesvyl - 07-07-2020, 02:02 PM
    RE: 4D populists - by Infinite - 07-07-2020, 02:21 PM
    RE: 4D populists - by Asolsutsesvyl - 07-14-2020, 05:09 PM
    RE: 4D populists - by Asolsutsesvyl - 07-14-2020, 05:51 PM

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