New Zeitgeist movie

[Amiyou]

Although the zeitgeist movies seem to make a great deal of sense and speak of things that are undeniably correct, in my opinion, I think it's something that should be looked at very carefully before buying into it.
As an example. In the spirituality section of the website you may find it to be basically trying to remove any ideas one may have of a higher sense of self.

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but when the practice of 'raindance' is described the way it is, I can't help but feel that the idea of focused collective intention being portrayed as ridiculous superstitious belief, which quantum physics is on the edge of proving without doubt is most certainly real, that they are either very behind on science or trying to take away peoples power.
I'd like to know what others think of that.

that is because for a good measure of this planet's history, religion, anything mystic, has been used as a control tool to take away people's power for real by keeping them sleeping, sedated, or ignorant.

actually, even today, religion is being used as a control tool by the right. in all countries, the right wing has an affiliation with religiousness, and you often see them vulgarly exploiting that kind of rhetoric.

but what is more, you will find that in the wanderer wave that Ra talks about, most of the prominent figures were against religion, or anything mystic of sorts. or kept a noticeable distance from them. a goodly number of them were deists, who said that everything that exists was 'the god', and one could learn/know it by learning what was around them. these include some prominent figures we know to be wanderers. jefferson for example, was quite a secularist to the point of making him rather an enemy of radical religious right in america today. franklin, from what i remember was also a deist. these are what we know to be wanderers for sure. however, if we look at the affiliations of these people, who they worked with, and the inclinations of contemporary or later period people who worked for the same causes with same fervor, we see that most of them were in the same direction. it is natural that these include a good deal of wanderers. (else it wouldnt make a 'wave of wanderers' for Ra to say it like that). that naturally includes majority of the scientists in the 19th century.

actually, if one looks at it, it is easy to see that these wanderers had their spirituality in a similar way to how we have it today.

just, back then, with the available vibration level of the planet and the information that was available, it was reflecting as deism, naturalism, today, we have a lot more to build on to go further about our innate spiritualism.

Ok, I'm not quite sure I know what you mean. Putting Ra and wanderers aside for a moment. I am aware that religion has been used to manipulate in many ways. But the point was really that, that section clearly tries to say that collective focused intent practices are pretty much a silly, useless idea. And if quantum physics is saying the opposite is actually the case, then what I was concerned about is still a concern.
It's all very well having a really good physical set up in society that the zeitgeist movement describes, but with that view on spirituality it puts the individual firmly back in place as one who feels disconnected from a higher spiritual understanding of life, and so only concern themselves with the physical ideas of resources etc, and i'd imagine that a society with that belief system would be a very cold and non feeling place. Just my feeling of it anyway.