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    05-16-2020, 08:20 PM (This post was last modified: 05-16-2020, 11:47 PM by ricdaw. Edit Reason: typo )
    (05-15-2020, 12:35 AM)peregrine Wrote:   
    I expect this will be a very brief thread, but as an experiment, as an endeavour to resolve a mystery, I will put out the question: Is it possible here to have a discussion of faith without, instead, blabbering voluminously about belief?  Can faith be honored faithfully without the thread becoming a depository for credos and personal ideological speculation?  I ask this because this forum is entitled, in part, "Spiritual Developement," and there's not a whole lot more important in that department than faith.  And yet, these pages are heavily crowded with speculation and received dogma while being a bit light, in my view, on matters of inner communion with Divinity in one form or another.

    It may be that very few of us have any faith substantial enough to mention, and if that's the case, then the mystery of why such discussion is so scant is easily solved.  Otherwise, I would heartily welcome here conversation on this particular topic.

    So. how shall we define the distinction between faith and belief?  I offer you Q'uo's point of view.


    https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/i..._0922.aspx Wrote:Faith is often misunderstood among your peoples for they confuse faith with belief. Belief is always belief in something--perhaps a creed or a system of tenets that form a dogmatic system. A believer believes specific points or speaks to a specific creed.

    Faith, on the other hand, has no content. It contains no knowledge. It is an attitude. It is the attitude that knows beyond doubt, regardless of the circumstances, that all is well. And the entity who is living a life in faith cannot be daunted by circumstance. Faith is an attitude which assumes that the infinite Creator, the higher self, and that self which planned this incarnation before taking flesh have provided ample opportunities for learning and for service, sometimes involved in learning is suffering. Sometimes there is sorrow and pain, yet one living a life in faith knows that that which is happening is perfect. It is precisely what is needed to advance spiritually and to be of service. Consequently, such an entity cooperates and harmonizes with circumstance and allows creativity and imagination to play a part in the flowing forward of events.

    Faith does not recognize closed doors. Faith abides, patiently, trustingly and with infinite attention. For there shall come those hints, inklings and information from spirit that shall illuminate the situation within the present moment. And this faith is that which shall serve you well, my brother, as you learn to listen to and communicate with your guidance system.

    Personally, I find this a gorgeous passage, and one which gives a simple, yet eloquent description of a spiritually well balanced relationship with life.  Do I "believe" it?  Yeah, I suppose, but more to the point I find that it resonates deeply in such a way that I can sense Spirit through its clarified vibrations.  I can feel multiple aspects of my energetic mosaic-of-self line up with one another to gesture that this verity resonates in their hearts, and it is good.

    Whither does your faith lead you?  Where do you feel it?  What proportion of the day and night do you commune with it?  Is it just a peripheral concept floating in the breeze, or is it as central central to you as your spine?
      
      

    Some facts that influence faith.

    Some ETs had enough interest and love for us to try to communicate with us thru Carla.

    There is absolutely no way to prove that Carla was channelling ETs.  Or that channelling is real.  Let alone that what those ETs said (as recorded in the Ra Material) is true.

    But I have faith all three of those facts are true.

    If you did not also believe these facts were true, I posit that you would not be in this forum, and you certainly wouldn't be posting here.

    What can we do with just these three facts?  1.  ETs.  2. Channelling.  3. Ra Material content.

    Well, we can accept reincarnation is real.

    We can accept that we chose to incarnate here and now for a reason.

    We can accept that we are Eternal Beings and that No Real Harm Happens Here.  

    We can accept that after we die, we will see and know WHY IT ALL WAS.

    And that's enough for me.  That's my faith, built on three simple facts.  

    And no matter what happens in this world, to me or to others or to all of it, none of it makes any difference to these three facts.

    ETs.
    Channelling.
    Ra Material content.

    You may say that three facts is too slender a reed to hold up the weight of one's faith.  Is it?

    I don't need anything else really.
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