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    Navaratna (Offline)

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    05-15-2020, 06:31 AM
    (05-15-2020, 06:06 AM)Jeremy Wrote: This is absolutely the most difficult aspect of the material yet, I would say, the most basic as well which yet again we find ourselves in a paradox. This illusion is so complex and well designed by ways of the veil that I find it practically impossible to stay within the mindset that all is truly well. To have that faith and steadfast attitude in every waking moment seems unattainable in my eyes though I'll freely admit that it's due to a lack of discipline more than anything else.

    Yet despite the lack of discipline, I have the belief that we aren't meant to perfect this ability anyways. As they say, 3rd density is meant to begin to learn the ways of love, not perfect it.

    Yet when I mention discipline, I find myself circling back to the difference you originally mentioned between belief and faith. Does discipline have more to do with faith or belief or is it more causality? Does belief begin the process then once the discipline has been honed turn into faith based upon the constant work upon the self? Or can you wholeheartedly have faith without the work at all?

    It goes back to dualism and ego-bias. If you choose to prefer to think a certain way, you have put yourself in a trap. Mental silence and powering down the body during meditation is a method developed to experience reality without filters rather than modifying it and pushing your own slant on bearing witness to the way everything is.

    I have never once thought of faith as something useful in understanding spirituality from an intellectual standpoint. Never. That puts in my mind the image of a ditzy Christian chick that isn't used to dealing with real difficulties.

    Maybe that will come across as insensitive, but I don't suspend reasoning because of my feelings about how I wish things were.

    Bias, bias, bias is your number one enemy in recognizing intelligent infinity.

    *gazing in to infinite light* yet...*squints* wait a minute what if that---what if that static is....*static intensifies*that thing that we were talking about early! *static deepens* am I supposed to have this other opinion? *points to fun-sized mirror* or this one? *shuts eye* I don't know...faith..or reason? Or do I believe? *grabs cross necklace*
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    No.

    Maybe they should use a different word than faith in these readings. To each their own. Calling it something else that would suggest the same idea might be a better way for that message to resonate with me. It's just like how thinking of LOVING everyone would vibe a lot better with people if it was more communicated as "Have a positive, radiant, caring force toward everyone, enemies and friends alike" from the standpoint of it is the only way to cleanse evil. Loving everyone...lol. It'd help if the word in English for that didn't also mean being in bed with them.

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    Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-15-2020, 12:35 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by BrotherInWaiting - 05-15-2020, 01:44 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-15-2020, 02:23 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Asolsutsesvyl - 05-15-2020, 05:20 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Navaratna - 05-15-2020, 06:13 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Jeremy - 05-15-2020, 06:06 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Navaratna - 05-15-2020, 06:31 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by AnthroHeart - 05-15-2020, 07:22 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Asolsutsesvyl - 05-15-2020, 09:16 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by AnthroHeart - 05-15-2020, 10:16 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Diana - 05-15-2020, 10:38 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Navaratna - 05-15-2020, 04:05 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-15-2020, 05:01 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Navaratna - 05-15-2020, 05:39 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-15-2020, 05:44 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Navaratna - 05-15-2020, 06:12 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Diana - 05-15-2020, 09:12 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by flofrog - 05-15-2020, 01:02 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-15-2020, 02:36 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Diana - 05-16-2020, 12:22 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Navaratna - 05-16-2020, 04:04 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-17-2020, 04:30 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by flofrog - 05-15-2020, 01:10 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by flofrog - 05-16-2020, 01:36 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-16-2020, 02:01 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 05-16-2020, 03:03 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Asolsutsesvyl - 05-16-2020, 10:31 AM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by flofrog - 05-16-2020, 02:17 PM
    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Diana - 05-16-2020, 11:41 AM
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    RE: Reagarding Faith...... - by Sacred Fool - 09-26-2020, 05:44 PM
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