(05-13-2020, 11:47 AM)Diana Wrote:(05-13-2020, 11:05 AM)sillypumpkins Wrote: I believe that, while the veil goes hand in hand with suffering, it is absolutely vital for the evolution of consciousness. Of course we don't like to see others suffer, but ultimately, it is the suffering and the "darkness" that often brings people to the light. And so, without the veil, it would be like the garden of eden. There would be no reason to grow. That's just how I see it.
I don't like to see my loved ones suffer. I have a close, close relative who is in the midst of a really dark time right now. It pains me on one level, on the emotional level perhaps. But on a higher level, I know that this is something that will aid his growth, in one way or another.
It is difficult to see others suffer. But my point included other life forms, which is at the center of my concern. The planet, plant life, animal life, and even insects (which are poisoned and sickened continually by people spraying pesticides in their yards. I used to have countless scorpions in my last back yard when I lived in an urban setting, because all of my neighbors sprayed. You can't kill scorpions with pesticide, they just sicken. So they would migrate to a spot where there was no poison). This is the sort of suffering that I find so unnecessary. It may be necessary for a 3rd-density human to suffer to evolve, but those same humans cause suffering for other life forms in order to learn. I comprehend that all is one, and in some way that learning flows to those other life forms, but the suffering humans cause just seems SOOO unnecessary to me just so they can learn faster.
Central to the question I have about control regarding the veil is this: Why must we evolve faster? Why isn't it just okay to limp along slowly (if that's the case) in the evolution of consciousness, without a veil? Toward what end? So the Creator can experience itself or something of that nature? Though all is one—it still feels like being a pawn. And that might be fine, except for the unnecessary suffering of real innocents.
I comprehend that my view here is so very limited, ironically due to the veil. I understand that the key is to make choices. But it seems to me that this is part of an outside plan, and that is what's at issue, and seems like control to me—that 3rd-density beings, here, are being experimented on with this particular control.
Understand that I am just canvassing this subject, and I'm not trying to be right or be a cosmic conspiracy theorist.
It's up to an individual if they want to take 10 lifetimes to move up through a density or see them all through exploring their mind and recognizing 14 of them.
When I first started reading forums I was thinking "No, that sounds terrible. Why do so many people feel that they are permanently stuck in 3rd or 4th density?"
I felt the need to share with people my perspective because to me that is like picturing someone with the idea that they are stunted at the level of consciousness in the pit of their stomach at 3rd, or thinking they are only in their heart or only worthy of it at 4th but never developed to the 6th energy level and need to wait until they die, after doing a life of good deeds to possibly be chosen to move up when it's far from my opinion of truth.
It's like comparing being a person with a vertebrae to a invertebrate life form.
This might sound "holier-than-thou" but I can think of conversations I've had with people in life speaking about the third eye and a decent number of young people actually saying to me "What's the point in having a third eye if I am completely functional without it?"
I'd just...be silent or sigh when I'd take a step back from it. To each their own, if someone wants to stay that way they're allowed to but I could never picture myself actually being comfortable with that attitude. "I'm completely fine with being in the dark."
Anyone is free to, but I myself don't think I'd ever want to.
"What are you DOING with that New Age bs?"
To me is like saying
"What are you doing with an intellect or consciousness...when you could just be a sack of potatoes?"
I don't fit with that mentality. Yet people have it. I won't get upset or argue with someone over it. I'll just slow shake my head in privacy....uh no.