(05-06-2020, 11:42 PM)Louisabell Wrote:(05-06-2020, 11:23 PM)Glow Wrote: He actually did say the hero’s journey was the male initiation myth. Then offered an ulternate obviously more clearly limited transformation to be the female initiation storey.
Limited transformation? Wow.
About 10 years ago I was given the option to never have to work a day in my life ever again. I walked away because I didn't love the man. It's not like he was bad looking, I just knew he would never love me the way I wanted.
Are we going to pretend that young men get given that option at anything close to the frequency as young women?
I am still proud today of the integrity and faith I had at such a young age to do that. Faith in a love that I didn't even know was yet possible.
I don't think it was a limited tranformation at all. I used to shudder when guys said they would "treat me like a princess". I'm not a princess. I'm a red blooded adult human female.
IF ONLY men got the opportunity to have THAT kind of initiation into the world.
I do not know what we are arguing about. I’m not arguing anything.
My comment limited transformation is meaning it limits it to 1 form of transformation not that it is limited.
As to your storey. I had a similar offer 5 or 6 years ago.
He said “How would you like half my stuff, quite rich and well known in California, he proposed marriage saying how he always thought I would be a great partner, having been friends for several years, and actually knowing I was married. Turned that down in a blink. He tried again a few times till I stopped even replying.
It didn’t transform me. But your situation you were likely dating so could see how it would take inner knowing to know it wasn’t for you.
Me saying it’s limited transformation is because it’s 1 way only.
There is no need to take offence I’m not sure why you are reading it that way.
My transformation was of aloneness, abused(sexual, psychological, and physical), vulnerable, broken, abandoned, belief in being garbage, a throw away and slowly one by one shedding each of those parts and becoming strong, secure, healed, the helper to those alone or abandoned.
Making that the female version of hero’s journey would also be limiting women.
Not sure how much clearer I can be.
Your offence shown in your comment
“ Limited transformation? Wow.”
Shows there is a miscommunication because that is not at all what I implied.
My objection was to even needing a female counterpart to the hero’s journey they were implying was male.
We don’t it’s not a men’s initiation into the journey, it’s simply initiation into the journey for all.