female wanderers

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The hero’s journey is a remake if the fools journey from tarot.
To say the female human needs a seperate journey based on “not being a rich princess” is HUGELY offensive. I’m not going to take offence but just think that through again slowly.

Do you really think half the human population just start out like catered to rich princesses? We all struggle, we all have a journey of learning, over coming, rising above our personal issues, being transformed by the adventure/struggle of life.

There is no female version.

It’s life for any person if they growth through their struggles.

That's not how I took it at all. The princess archetype is just that - an archetype. It is a reflection on how female sexual market value is usually highest when she is young, and is inherent in who she, not what she does. Females then are given many temptations which play on her vanity. At an early age she must gain wisdom quickly in order to make good longterm choices for herself and her future family. It's like the overall story arch of every Jane Austen novel.

Men on the other hand will have their highest sexual market value at a later age once they've proven themselves in ambition and reputation. This isn't something I *personally* agree with, but I mean this trope exists for some reason.

Yes, these roles are traditional, archaic, superficial even, but we're just playing around with ideas here. No one is saying that anyone needs to adhere to any generalisations. I don't think anyone is out to dehumanise anyone else.

I think we shut down discussion and future potential for growth when we assume the worse, like men must think women have no struggles at all.

You are reducing what I am saying.
Sure there could be a princess archetype but to claim the hero’s journey is male is rediculous. Even the originator himself said “it is found in every great storey ever told. Not every great male storey, every great storey.

It’s a storey of transformation. All transformation from the “fool” to the now wiser and deeper developed non fool.

That can of course include any transformation one goes on but to say the female version is the “princess” version reduces half the population to 1 way of transforming while giving all the possible options for men.

That’s Hollywood.

In real life there are just as many transformation models for women as men and they fall under the hero’s journey.

As to saying womens has to do with loss of wealth or value that is a societal construct. The perceived loss of value for women, and gaining of value for men YIKES do you see where that idea came from?

It’s not reality.
That’s men deciding their red ray determines women’s value and women believing what they are told.

A fool may believe that at the beginning and after her or his hero’s journey end up realizing its bull and now through their experiences see one is wiser and stronger with more depth of understanding after living their life, and alas no value could be lost only gained.

Sure the princess storey can be part of a hero’s journey but it certainly is not the 1 option for women in their hero’s journey. We are quite varied, and full of potential for transformation.