04-12-2020, 06:10 PM
(04-12-2020, 11:00 AM)Diana Wrote:(04-11-2020, 12:45 PM)flofrog Wrote: I see how it is difficult squaring veil with free will and 'pushing' evolution this way, but true also we have only one perspective of this as of this one incarnation present now, right ? So we feel, I could really evolve all right in more peaceful environment. just because right now we feel it's so brutal right ? But if we accept that, between incarnations it is blissful, it is where in fact our real home is, then, planning new incarnation with difficulty does seem appealing like,... lets go climb that cliff it's dangerous but I want to try this, and it is temporary anyway, and I can perhaps help another climber along the way or he will help me.
I understand. That works for me if I'm only talking about people. But there is so much more in this reality than just people. It seems like a bad plan to combine free will + the veil, almost dichotomous, and the results are that much more life suffers than just humans.
(04-11-2020, 02:28 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: It's about balance. Pre-veiling conditions were unfruitful because to some extent, adversity is necessary to grow and learn. I'm not advocating that 3d should be completely free of adversity of all kinds. An over-correction was made, and now we have a system with so much arbitrary and excess adversity that it has become toxic and stagnant in its own way. I do also believe there are certain negative beings that sit for quite a while at mid 6d without wanting to repolarize by exploiting this supply of excess misery, or as some has called it, "loosh".
An over-correction is a possibility, not a fact. And I agree that I am not talking about a black-and-white situation, but I do think it's BS that human free will gets to plunder, abuse, use, and torture other life-forms, including the planet that makes life possible for them.
(04-11-2020, 02:28 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: On the other hand, Bashar has said you can't move to a next step until you accept where things are at and see the value that it had to be this way, at least for a while.
Well, I don't accept any authority but my own. I will say that it is what it is here, and I DO accept that as far as it goes. But does that mean I can't question anything? Just because there is an entity, the Logos, that created this architecture, does not mean I am subservient to it. I will work within the structure of the environment I'm in. But my mind is going to stay free to question and imagine.
Agree 100% on the accepting, but still questioning.