04-12-2020, 12:19 AM
(04-05-2020, 09:55 AM)Infinite Wrote:(04-05-2020, 01:52 AM)unity100 Wrote: Astral projection could be possible. But it should be rare. Otherwise there wouldnt be any need for Yahweh to put the Martian spirits into bodies just to transport them to Earth.
Physical presence is not possible.
Yes, but they are different things. Astral projection is temporary. The entity continues to belong to Earth.
Leaving aside that 'astral projection' is merely being present in astral plane, just like how entities are when disincarnate, the bold part is the determining part.
The entity was given to earth for the time being, and it exists as part of earth's experiental sphere. From its mind complex to its body complex, including the astral parts of those, belong to earth's experience. And there isnt any 3d equivalents of those in Saturn, anywhere.
Quote:(04-05-2020, 01:52 AM)unity100 Wrote: 5th of 3d is blue suboctave of 3d which is related to communication and knowledge. It is not related to 5D, neither it is a representation of it.
Within a density there are seven sub-densities. These seven sub-densities, which are also representations of the 7 rays, are the planes / dimensions of the Earth.
Just as our subtle bodies are analogous to the bodies that will be used in the next densities, the inner planes of the Earth are analogous to the next densities. Therefore, the green ray layer is the astral plane, analogous to 4D. The blue ray layer, the devanic or mental plane, analogous to 5D. In fact, the traditional description of this plane is the same description that Ra gave to the fifth density: functioning only by thought. They are similar, although the true color don't be the same.
Analogous doesnt mean the same. You have a 5th chakra, a 4th chakra, you have blue and green energies, and are you able to travel by thought yet in this early 4d planet?
No.
Sub densities carry the meaning of the full densities which carry the emphasized full meaning of a ray. They are not those subdensities.
Quote:(04-05-2020, 01:52 AM)unity100 Wrote: Material notes that travel by thought starts from late 4D. Its not something of 3d or early 4d.
I am saying that an entity that has mastered this density can manifest itself in any plane of it. This is well known in esoteric traditions. Ra spoke of this too:
World's historic religious mythology and last 40 years' spiritualist literature do not enable any such thing, im afraid.
Quote:However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread.
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That was not about 3d entities. Even Ra in 6d have to create an external construct to use as vehicle to concentrate their mind and carry their body when they are traveling by thought. A 3d body would not be able to withstand any such concentration and energy in any way.
Have you seen anyone in 3d who has been able to create an external shell to encase his body to travel by thought to somewhere yet...
Quote:Well, I disagree. Hindu traditions speak of many skills (siddhis) of someone whose kundalini has risen completely. The entity becomes a god in this dimension.
Many such personas 'exist' in deep history of last 2000 years, based on hearsay and mythology. And yet we are to see one in the past few hundred years.
Ra explicitly says that such a happening would enable someone to live like a god, and therefore even 6d wanderers incarnate into normal 3d bodies which tie their potential into 3d reality.
Quote:Are you aware that I am not saying that it is the yellow-ray body that goes to these places, right? The bodies used are others. Ra also spoke of the adept's use of the most advanced bodies, the indigo and violet ray.
Indigo body for a 3d entity is activated after death. Entity cannot stand in it for long duration. If he could, it practically would be a 6d compatible entity and it would live in 6d instead. Unless it would want to incarnate as a wanderer, then it would still incarnate into an actual 3d body.
This is before the fact that these bodies can comfortably described as being pretty much more etherical than physical. Though they are both etherical and physical.
Quote:Also spoke about the possiblity of a 3D entity build a pyramid as they did
I dont remember any such Q/A. If you are talking about Imhotep, he was a normal 3d architect and he was declared a god by Egyptians after the pyramids were revealed. He didnt have anything to do with them.
Quote:This is a cloudy area. But there is information in the Hindu tradition about a state called Sahaja Samadhi. In this state, a person remains merged with the Creator in consciousness even when performing daily tasks. It is the most advanced state possible in yoga.
Leaving aside that this is a religious matter and it is that religion's own mythology or understanding, even if an entity remained in 3d while its top chakras of 3d being active, this still would not mean an unhampered channeling of infinite energy as you describe.