03-04-2020, 07:49 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-04-2020, 08:05 AM by EvolvingPhoenix.)
(03-04-2020, 06:12 AM)kraken99 Wrote:(03-03-2020, 05:47 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: I told you what the subjective answer is FOR ME.I couldn't understand you if your answer wouldn't be (at least partially) FOR ME also. Your precondition of exclusive subjectivity is fiction, because it couldn't be shared then.
(03-03-2020, 05:47 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: This is what I'm talking about when I say I don't get your analogy. The way I see it, presence is the equivalent of paying attention to the road when you are driving, and THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COMPILATION of L/L Research books, Ra and other Confederation sources emphasize AD NAUSEUM the importance of presence, awareness and meditation.Try this test of awareness (if you don't know it of course). It takes cca 30 sec. but you must be fully aware/concentrated otherwise you will miss the point:
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo [/video]
(03-03-2020, 05:47 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: "If you know in my boot is a scorpion inside and I want to put the boot on, don't you warn me?"If the scorpion is not enough, how about a professionally hidden antipersonnel mine on my road? Of course I cannot give you my consent to inform me because I am clueless about the mine I am stepping on. Let me die, buddy?
If I am a channeled late 6D being whose purpose is to answer your questions about spiritual evolution (and not to act as your babysitter) then no. That would defeat the point of you going on the journey to begin with. Ra is not supposed to give you the spoilers to your story. And if you are the questioner, it is not Ra's responsibility to ask your questions for you either.
"Because I am babbling something, didn't ask the right question and have free will?""
Yes, EXACTLY because that. Ra is not a 3D companion tasked with removing obstacles from your journey.
Ra is a source of information regarding the One-ness of all things (to the best of his late 6D understanding) and the evolution of consciousness through the first 6 out of 7 densities within the octave.
It would NOT be appropriate for Ra to warn you that a scorpion is in your boot without your consent.
If you would be from the Orion, would you say it? No, you are not stupid. You would present yourself similarly like the Ra. I don't say the Ra is from the Orion, because I don't know it. But it is not good to open one's mouth and sit one's back and be sacredly hypnotized.
"I couldn't understand you if your answer wouldn't be (at least partially) FOR ME also. Your precondition of exclusive subjectivity is fiction, because it couldn't be shared then."
Uh-huh. Like I said, what the fruit of studying the LOO is, is a choice only YOU are capable of making for yourself. I can tell you what it means for me, because since the question you are asking is subjective, I can ONLY answer it from MY perspective. Whether or not you are capable of understanding MY take on your open question is really YOUR business, not mine. exclusivity is not a precondition, it is a choice on your end. I cannot prescribe what you decide the fruits of the Law of One are for you. Nobody outside of yourself can. The subjectivity need not be exclusive. Feel free to agree with me or not. That is your choice. Also, feel free to understand a rather simple answer or not: "For me, the fruit of studying the Law of One has been healing and magick" if you cannot understand my SIMPLE answer, maybe your comprehension just isn't good enough to grasp the Law of One material. Or even managing to breath for that matter. The fact that you are alive must prove the existence of God, for it is nothing short of a miracle. Or maybe (more likely) you are just deliberately CHOOSING to be thick. And I will NOT be held accountable for YOU choosing to be thick. Nor will Ra.
"Try this test of awareness (if you don't know it of course). It takes cca 30 sec. but you must be fully aware/concentrated otherwise you will miss the point:
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo [/video]"
Sorry buddy, but I've already seen THE s*** out of this video, ruining the point of your sharing it. If I had missed the gorilla, just what do you think you would have proven, hmm?
Fact of the matter is that at best, this amounts to an appeal to hypocrisy argument.
And if you believe that true presence is just impossible or whatever, then I guess, so is the possibility of your dumb ass not driving off a cliff. Sorry buddy. Guess you are too dumb to live. A cruel and unloving god has made you UNIQUELY daft, among all of infinity. I guess he did this for shits and giggles? I guess you really CAN'T be held responsible for the competence of your own driving.
But okay, since you can't be trusted with free will, I'll tell you what: just pray for somebody to come along and baby you. I GUARANTEE the One will hear your prayers and send you a babysitter. Now, granted, people who take it upon themselves to take the responsibility of others into their own hands have a tendency to be tyrannical, but apparently you cannot be trusted to do the driving yourself.
Because you have DECIDED you cannot be bothered to pay attention to the road.
Pray for a chauffer then. Just don't be surprised if somebody else behind the wheel takes you where THEY want you to go, not where YOU want to go. THEY'RE the ones behind the wheel after all. They have final say over where the car is heading.
Honestly, I don't know how to help you, because you seem to refuse to do s*** for yourself, and there is only so much anybody outside of yourself can do for you. Which leads me to he next bit...
"If the scorpion is not enough, how about a professionally hidden antipersonnel mine on my road? Of course I cannot give you my consent to inform me because I am clueless about the mine I am stepping on. Let me die, buddy?"
Then I guess your f*****. Oh well too bad. Jesus, I honestly don't see what part of "the encyclopedia is not your babysitter" confuses you.
EDIT:
Missed this bit:
"If you would be from the Orion, would you say it? No, you are not stupid. You would present yourself similarly like the Ra. I don't say the Ra is from the Orion, because I don't know it. But it is not good to open one's mouth and sit one's back and be sacredly hypnotized."
Remember the part where I said NOBODY can decide for you what you choose to believe? Yeah, that applies here. Honestly, this whole thing just comes across as you either
a) looking for somebody to PROVE to you the LOO material can be trusted (impossible, since none of the claims can be either proven or disproven)
b) Looking to start an argument for who-gives-a-s*** what reason, in which case, take it somewhere else. Nobody here is interested.
c) Looking to be spoonfed the answers to your life, in which case, the LOO is not for you. I suggest joining a religion.
or
d) some combination of the above.
In any of these cases, I cannot help you. Sorry.
Discernment is your responsibility alone. And since my discernment is MY responsibility, I can look for clues, but ultimately, I can never be sure I've got the right answers. THAT'S THE POINT OF 3D.
You can never be sure.
If that bothers you, OH WELL.