03-03-2020, 09:31 PM
(10-03-2016, 06:56 PM)BlatzAdict Wrote: For a long time I didn't want to say anything in this thread, because I feel that to say one way is wrong and one way is right, is very contradictory to unity and right now I just feel f*** it. It's like saying you're no longer spiritual when you eat meat, or like one someone else remarked as being poisoned. The Victorian era, was one of the most sexually repressive societies in the modern world and never before were there so many rapists, serial killers, and attempts to take bondage to quite an extreme level as a result. Perhaps the problem comes with the box that bdsm is associated with, there are many more sensual games tantrically that share a lot of the same traits with bdsm.
It's easy to judge and set aside a part of our functions and in doing so counts as the opposite of accepting and catalyzing the experience. I can't speak for women, and I can't even speak for other men. A long time ago as a child I witnessed my mom getting bullied by my father, at the time I didn't know what to do other than stand there next to her and cry. I was angry that someone would do something so aggressive to someone else like that and it was that feeling of powerlessness that was the hardest to deal with. As I came to understand society as patriarchal, I gravitated towards situations where I suppose I could see women in power. If society would not balance itself, then how would it eventually balance? Of course that comes when starting to look at the divine feminine and divine masculine archetypes as qualities of the self.
At the heart of any Dzogchen Buddhist practice it is to see yourself as the void and being able to meet nothingness with love rather than fear in order to transmute your physical self back into a light body. Historically all religions have had some sort of difficult ritual as a test to maintain a blissful state under distressing situations. Is it a means of escape or is it a means of confronting that which is uncomfortable in order so that it may be accepted and ultimately healed? I don't think that there can be a defined cut and dry one size fits all meaning, and there are people who have taken it to the large extremes of signing a contract to go live a life of servitude. I knew someone who was in that situation, and at that time i think they wanted to be put in that space of feeling safety to explore uncomfortable situations and as a result change how one further reacts to that uncomfortable situation.
The danger of anything, is when anything is taken to an extreme, and a lot of the opinions here seemed seemed to take a judgemental attitude to the concepts which demean the lifestyle and the very individuals who engage in that world, which again is enough to make anyone hesitate to say anything, not just women. I witnessed in my opinion both positive and negative things about bdsm as a whole, but it's not like anything else in the world is completely positive or negative. I've come to understand 100% STO is evil because if you are always thinking of others and never thinking of yourself, then you go towards a police state with mass surveillance.
I don't know how many times I've heard you need to love yourself if you are going to learn how to love others. Does this mean Jesus did not truly love others because he could not love himself enough to take care of himself, as a result creating the martyrdom complex? He did end up using his powers to ultimately harm someone when he was younger. Of course that led to a positive direction, however prior to that event Jeshua would have been just as ignorant to his emotions and as a result may of used them to harm another due to a perceived threat.
The entire reason why sixth density wanderers incarnate into third density as powerless, is not to harm others and not to break the illusion of free will but to work around it. Sixth density souls by the law of free will incarnating into a limited powerless state, lack of past life recall, lacking of any advanced psychic abilities is like a tease and denial, because the dreams sometimes tease you of far out realities, technologies, societies, and then it's back to reality. Whenever some TV show ends on a cliffhanger, is a form of a tease and a denial. Many things are tested within that, like patience, and fortitude, as well as rejection, and thus also abandonment.
The way I've come to learn it in a very simplistic way is that if i don't know how to take care of myself, then how can I be expected to take care of others in a way that befits them? Anyone having any such capabilities would end up being destructive without the right wisdom. The best teachers say the thing that makes you feel the most uncomfortable, because it's not about making you feel good, it's about facing the parts of yourself that are difficult so that you can heal that part of yourself and ultimately reach your own mastery.
I saw this play where a young man asks his father, do you like me? The father says where does it say that I have to like you? i clothe you, feed you, house you, and i don't charge you a thing, and you think i don't like you? I love you, i don't need to like you because I love you and gave you life. Real love, isn't always proper and nice on the outside, sometimes love is tough. Love gets tough when you experience hurt, separation or you feel that your trust has been broken.
At first I thought there was something wrong with me because clearly I went with the first opinion, oh anything bdsm is bad, it leads to negative polarization. The years served to create more excuses to repress it, rather than to deal with it directly. The repression of it led to wanting to experience it more so. What I started to recognize from it was that I wanted to experience sex with full presence on both sides, to have an energy exchange at all of the chakras, I'm starting to believe it's only possible with someone else who has had some sort of a shaman training or is naturally perhaps by current life; adept.
There are a lot of parallels with tantric sex and bdsm. The point of both is simply no expectation, our society wants to put a label on sex, it wants to put a label on war, it wants to categorize every part of our human experience and put it all into a box. There is a certain electricity that becomes very palpable when two people aren't expecting anything and are just experiencing each other whilst having no thoughts whatsoever. It feels magical, powerful, and the worst thing anyone can do is impose shame on a natural function of a body that has been designed by the creator. What other people get out of it might be entirely different, I suppose. In an attempt to find a sexual energy transfer containing all of the chakras, it's lead to a few realizations, there's not that many people who read or scholar the Law of One or seek that enough to recognize what it is that they are attempting to want, and as a result are not able to manifest the right condition for the positive focus wherein it would lead to a negative focusing of the same light/line of thought or action because of either a Half full or half empty perspective.
Nobody likes a song with all harmony and no malody to make one understand why the harmony was so good in the first place. The use of complementary colors in paintings to emphasize the specific color and make it stand out more. Like when you paint a tree, it doesn't stand out until it has it's shade and it's light, it would instead blend in with the background. Likewise there's no sex that can be called sex without at least a nibble or two or five.
I don't know what it's like to experience sex with someone who is on the spiritual path and balanced. I'd imagine being able to reach light body with a balanced feminine and masculine understanding as traits within the self, within both partners engaging in that sexual act as long as both partners were both adept and balanced.
There are a few points of input I would probably like to add later, but I am at a critical paucity of fucks to give right now, so instead I will simply say this:
"Well said brother!"