(01-09-2020, 11:16 AM)Ray711 Wrote:Really I thought it beautifully paralleled the sleeping masses and the few that awaken, how our roles have been fed to us by the programming we receive but are we really that which we have been programmed to be?(01-08-2020, 08:02 PM)Glow Wrote: Have any of you watched WestWorld?
I have, I couldn't help but feel that the show had a very materialistic mindset, and that it trivialized the nature of consciousness.
In regards to the STS vs STO though there at the end of second season were the ones who went to the new world that was fully nonphysical to live in a more harmonious, natural way. The others stayed behind to duke it out. I wouldn't want that nonphysical uploaded experience but really who is to say that isn't what we are now. We are just energy.
(01-09-2020, 11:16 AM)Ray711 Wrote: I don't think we can truly know whether an AI has a consciousness. If you program it in a complex enough way, to the point of having human-like behavior, it sure would seem that it's making STS/STO choices, or that it's conscious. It doesn't mean that it is, though. If it were, this would entail either that humans can create consciousness, which seems very arrogant to me, or that souls willingly choose to incarnate as AIs. Maybe the latter does happen, but... I think it sounds weird.Humanity for a long time thought animals and human babies didn't feel pain and emotions the way an adult does.
I mean in both cases the emotions and processing is different due to awareness but still we were wrong in our limiting assumptions.
I do not say we are there with AI now, nor am I promoting we should take AI there. I am just saying the assumption that infinity couldn't use a hybrid or full artificial intelligence to explore green ray and STO philosophy is basically limiting INFINITY to the FINITE. SO right away that should be a flag that it is biased thinking. It's infinity.
(01-09-2020, 11:16 AM)Ray711 Wrote: Overall, I'm wary of any viewpoint that works under the premise that technology is necessary. Many masters say that to live in the mind is to live disconnected from one's true essence. If the mind itself is such a stumbling block to our connection with the divine, what does that say about living surrounded by the creations of the mind? In other words, by technology.Everything is a double edged sword. Anything can be used STO or STS. It is simply an idea of the mind that would say other wise. The divine is in everything how do we see it, use it, share it, do we use it to bring us closer or separate us.
I've come to believe that one of many sub-choices involved in The Choice of either STS or STO is to choose whether to live more closely connected to the Creation as given by the Creator, in an organic and harmonious way, reflecting the choice of acceptance. Or to become so obsessed with control that the self, the ego, and more specifically the intellectual mind is seen as the solution to all problems, with the Creation itself being seen as something chaotic and "as that which shall be put in order", with technology being the solution. This obsession with control can become so extreme and so downright pathological, that even death itself is seen as a force to control. It sounds insane, but to entities who are so invested in their transitory egoic identities, when and if they happen to stumble upon the resources to explore the possibility of immortality through technology, they will no doubt pursue this path. It is in their hubris that they believe that their own technological advancements are more useful than what the Creator provided, and more useful than the connection that our natural bodies have with the divine.
I believe that to embrace technology is to invite a disconnection to the divine. I remember near death experiences where the spirits would show that the smallest concentrations of light in our planet happen in the cities, whereas the biggest ones happened in nature. Other NDEs, when speaking about our 4th density future, would say that there will be very little if any technology, and that it is our own connection with the divine what helps us create better physical changes that ease our lives. If the mere fact of living in a box of concrete already entails a certain disconnection from the divine, putting things directly into our brains seems like playing with fire to me. :\
We can use nature: sex, trees, water, oil, land to cause us seperation. Even spirituallity to cause strife and wars.
The same can be said about technology but right now I am seeing online Iranian citizens connecting with American citizens and they are calling each other brother and wishing each other safe. Many talking about how they are more similar to each other than they are with their own government. Putting out the call for peace.
Technology connecting people, helping green ray spread. Who knows what else technology can do to save us from ourselves.
It's all divine.
I love nature but really we are part of nature. Our buildings aren't so dissimilar to the ant hill, or the beaver dam.
We are messier, more destructive. Bellicose as Ra said but that was us well before we had computers.
We are a dumb civilization. There is still time to learn and maybe technology will help with that.
Heck if we were a bit smarter maybe we wouldn't be so self destructive. Technology might have an important part to play in that.
Double edged sword.

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