12-01-2019, 10:35 AM
(12-01-2019, 03:51 AM)Celestial Wrote: About our Logos being negative... I could believe this.
I can’t speak for anyone else’s experience but most of my life I have experienced a humongous background energy of negativity. Negativity does not seem to me something that pushes itself or tries to make itself pronounced. Whether it’s something I was born into or inherent to wherever we are it’s been the primary faculty behind most of my life and hasn’t given me much of a choice in what I want. No negotiating with it. I don’t have the positivity to overpower it. Could very well be the logos or a so-called “god” of this world.
I've considered various teachings concerning the nature of Logos at different levels. At the highest level the "why?" of creation is beyond polarity, since polarity enters below 7D. Polarity can only exist after separation and illusion enters.
As for the structure of the cosmos, and the Logos at different levels below the All, that's where different explanations enter. Some, including of mystical esoteric Christian origin, place a negative local Logos several levels below a positive larger Logos. The Ra material depicts the Logos immediately above as basically benign, but in comparing with various other teachings, I am not sure whether Ra gave the full explanation, or limited it in some cases in order to present something which the 3D group communicated with could harmoniously receive. In general, scopes and scales of things mentioned by Ra differ from the usual concepts, and maybe there is some careful withholding of information connected to this - a sharing of information with some things omitted, in such a way that a fuller picture can be pieced together accurately later on by filling in blanks, if done correctly.
However a fuller synthesis may look - and I need to more carefully read the Law of One before being able to come far in conclusions - what I have gathered so far is summarized in the following:
(11-29-2019, 05:24 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: There's two basic, very different explanations of "why?" for the world we live in, with its veiling and misunderstanding, why people are distracted and spiritually asleep, engaging in transient matters life after life while the sinkhole of indifference deepens and wars and suffering goes on.
One idea, that offered by Ra, is that of a Logos experimenting, trying something which happens here, but not everywhere else (or not even in most places): a greater veiling and separation between higher and lower awareness and focus, to encourage a more vivid and vigorous exploring and growth. It appears on the whole to be a failed experiment, as the picture of the future is that of a small harvest, most of humanity still stuck in the sinkhole of indifference.
A different idea, that offered by the Cassiopaeans, is that this is "The Matrix", into which souls were lured in order to trap them in a system which is designed to make them generate loosh for 4D STS to suck up, through inflicting suffering on one another while staying asleep and repeating the same pattern over and over, unable to learn and grow beyond it. War and loss, including mass madness and forgetting of what has been learned by prior generations, is in this explanation deliberately orchestrated by 4D STS.
The second idea is very appealing as an explanation, because it seems to fit what can be seen on Earth, while with the first idea, the good intentions behind the experiment are not possible to witness from this end of the veil. I'm not sure whether the full picture corresponds to either; it could be that Ra emphasized the elements agreeable to the 3D group spoken to, and that the Cassiopaeans zoom in on the negative elements of this world clearly in order to then offer a tainted solution.
A third type of explanation, that found in e.g. the Gnosis books of Boris Mouravieff, is a multi-dimensional view of the cosmos, where "God" or "the Absolute" has three distinct shapes at three distinct levels above this physical world, in a cosmos which branches out like a recursive definition, from unity, to higher planes, to individual beings, to inanimate matter.
The difference between that and Ra's view is that negativity enters at the level of the "Absolute III", in a way which corresponds to this world being closer to 4D STS than to 4D STO. In other words, this world is an example of a world which has branched out positively once, and then negatively after, leading to a physical world more negative than positive in its appearances; a world where life eats life in order to sustain itself, and proceeds in an ugly way by nature.
In such a world, the highest is pure, but difficult to access; the intermediate, further from the physical, is mixed-up and muddy, and those who truly develop may do so either positively or negatively. The physical is more negative than positive, while the opposite type of physical world is metaphorically more like the Christian Garden of Eden.
The "Absolute III", relative to where we are, has a "satanic" nature according to Mouravieff, while in more purely positive worlds, a different "Absolute III" of the opposite nature would be the more immediate Logos above. Regardless, the "Absolute II", several steps up in consciousness, is purely positive in its nature. (The opposite case for the "Absolute II" may correspond to the extremely negative worlds beyond our imagination referred to by Ra in a few places, the high-security spiritual prisons into which 5D STS would like to lure souls.)