No entity without help 50:5

[Diana]

I share your doubts. I believe that it is important (as Ra said) to realize that we do not understand the nature of reality or the why of things, but I definitely agree that some pills are hard to swallow. Lately the notion of child soldiers has been popping up in my mind quite a bit, and I have trouble reconciling that reality with these concepts of acceptance, catalyst, polarization, etc. Then I think that souls who undergo extreme trauma and pain like that were perhaps leaning towards STS in their soul stream, and perhaps in having such an experience they can either decide to fully embrace STS, or start aspiring to STO. But of course, the notion that people who suffer through such tragedies somehow "brought it upon themselves" sounds so terrible. Personally, as uncomfortable as I am with certain realities, I believe the best fit for me is the belief that all things may indeed be happening for a reason, but while realizing that I really just do not understand. I believe in using our discomfort at the pain and suffering of others as motivation to ease that very suffering and to be of service, not as an excuse to become bitter and to be angry at the Creator, or to live in a state of fear and powerlessness at the perceived chaotic and cruel nature of reality.

I agree that the widespread, blanket statement that those who suffer bring it on themselves is unpalatable. On the other hand, in any situation, no matter what the outcome might be, one can shift one's reactions to actions, and also shift self-identification from being a victim to being empowered regardless of how that changes things outwardly. It is not a simple subject.

STS is love of, and service to, self. How that service manifests may be incidental to the others it affects from the STS individual's point of view.

I think this opens up a very interesting subject for debate.

I decide to look upon this from the perspective that, in a unified Creation, it is impossible to be without being of service. In other words, it is impossible to do anything in the Creation without being in some kind of relationship with other parts of the Creation. I believe that this relationship (be it in the form of thoughts or actions) can always fall somewhere in the acceptance-control continuum. To put myself as an example, I'm extremely introverted in the sense of needing huge amounts of alone time. I may be in nature enjoying the view of a lake, for example. A group of people happens to walk by. Given that I was enjoying the peace, the quiet and the beauty of the environment, I may feel somewhat of an annoyance at having that silence disrupted. A part of me definitely wishes things were different; that those people were gone. I may not act upon this thought, I may not try to actively and physically control these people to get them out of there, but the thought itself, without falling into full blown STS territory, was definitely more into the "control" side of the spectrum. Then I may decide to balance this with other thoughts, thoughts of acceptance, like "these people have as much right to be here as I do", or "it's not reasonable that everybody be quiet so that I can enjoy quietness".

You are missing the fact that many people don't even make choices. Which in a way is a choice not to choose, but there is a level of not even being aware of choice. So those who don't make conscious choices are like flotsam and jetsam in the sea of life, just being pushed around by the currents. As such, they interact, but passively. With no active choosing or interaction, I think any polarization would be haphazard and random, as within us all there is infinite potential—based on the concept of infinity and wave function alone.

In a businessman the situations are more cut and dry. A businessman by definition is attempting to climb a hierarchy; a hierarchy of other-selves. That's a context ripe with catalyst. Will he climb the hierarchy naturally, in a moral way, on his genuine merits and hard work alone? Or will he manipulate, lie and cheat to get to the top? In the case of an STS entity I don't think there's any doubt that, when push comes to shove, they will have no qualms about choosing the latter. I don't think such a thing can ever be incidental, at least not when it comes to harvestable entities. Both STO and STS entities have to decide very consciously what kind of relationship with other-selves they are going to have.

You are describing an employee situation, not that of a businessman or entrepreneur. An employee would "climb the ladder." An entrepreneur has no ladder to climb. In this category I would include sales people as they are generally autonomous and not employee types.

An entrepreneur is a "creator" of something, not a person walking in the path someone else has created (being an employee). So in considering using others to get the thing created, let's take Elon Musk as an example. He has a big vision he is manifesting. In order to work for his company (I'm thinking about SpaceX), employees must agree to work super hard and long hours. They must align with, and support, his goal of creating his vision. He did not start this business to hire people and give them a living; he is not the caretaker of his employees—that is incidental; he is the creator of a product. Though his purpose may be to help humankind, he must have a one-pointed focus to create something so massive as viable space travel. You could say he is using all the people who work for him, and their energy and sweat and abilities, to achieve his own end. He may treat them fairly, but do you think he is sitting around worrying about their wages or insurance? This is incidental to the goal of creating space travel. So is he STS- or STO-oriented?

Not sure what you mean by faith. Could you elaborate?

Either faith in a particular metaphysical framework, or (as Q'uo expresses) faith in the sense of believing that everything is well and as it should be, no matter how bad it may look. Atheists can and often are very driven by morality, but the very belief that there is nothing beyond 3rd density imposes on them the belief that certain things (a great deal of things, in fact) are completely unacceptable. I believe that this makes great amounts of atheists who, for all intents and purposes are wonderful people, fall into the sink-hole of indifference, given that their beliefs are a handicap towards the acceptance needed to polarize STO.

This is exactly where "belief" mucks it up. If you have no beliefs, you don't need anything like faith. With no beliefs, you are open, and free to experience all and receive all. It is the wave function where all outcomes are possible, as opposed the particle function where there is one collapsed outcome (the belief). Along with this ideally would be a heightened awareness of what resonates or what is needed at the moment for expansion of being/awareness/consciousness. It is an individual journey for us all, in spite of the theory we are all one. So we must each guide our own ship through the journey. But if we are guiding our ship toward a particular destination because that is what we believe,  we may manifest that for ourselves and so be it if that's what is wanted. For example, Christians believe they will go to heaven. I think they may be able to create that for themselves. For my part, I don't want limitations like that; I want to embrace existence and take in as much as I can as I evolve.

When I was growing up, as far back as age 5 or 6, I can recall thinking about the universe and if it had an edge; what was outside of it; and where it actually was. When I would go down this thought stream I would start to feel pressurized, as though something invisible was pressing in on me and in me. I think this was me not being able to hold any further information on the subject, as though I didn't have the electrical capacity. I still feel that way about those particular ideas.

Whatever one is open to is part of the journey. Maybe Christians who create a heaven together help each other navigate the vastness. I prefer the vastness.

My thread has completely derailed. I appreciate all the comments with the twists and turns of the thoughts of others but again, my thread completely derailed. :-(

Apologies. :\

Diana, if you're interested, perhaps we can continue that conversation either in a new thread or via PM.

Things sometimes develop organically like this and that's a good thing. If a moderator would split the thread that would remedy the situation.