Why the hate for wisdom?

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First off I want to point out that freedom of speech does not entail harrasment, incitement of violence, conspiracy to commit crimes and threats of violence, so if a political party engages in that speech, it is not protected! They are committing a crime.

Trump is engaging in it, along with his followers. The speech does not need to directly call for violence against a certain demographic.

All it needs to do is to vilify that demographic and blame whatever on them. Just like what is happening. Eventually some will act on the accumulated hate.

I could also ask you, will you become authoritarian to stop the authoritarians? Also a paradox.

Which is solved in 6th density, with 6th density principles...

Obligatorily so, since the 6d entity also needs some discipline in order to go forward starting from 6d.

That said, there is no way a 4d positive society can accept and accommodate those who are acting as negative and advocating negativity amidst them. Authoritarianism or not, unless the collective energy and love of the society cannot accept and transform the individual, they would eventually break up with those people and outcast them. Because such a situation cannot be sustained. Same or a negative 4d society in respect to an entity which is advocating positivity.

Exactly same principle in in play in between the wars in between Confederation and orion - because the confederation cannot accept what orion is suggesting, they lose polarity. But they cannot accept it and stay positive.

Lots of royal families, theocracies and military coups in the middle east - don't think those forms of power are big on the whole universal freedom of speech thing.

Numerous middle eastern countries were semi-socialist democracies in their time. From Iraq to Iran to Syria, to Egypt. All of which either got US backed coups and then islamicizationor direct islamicization.

Listening to the person in the room holding the gun is not "freedom of speech". You won't see them coming, and there will be little you can do to stop them, but your fear of them will evidently make you give up your ideals. Looks to me like they've already won.

Yeah...

This sensitivity sounds so right and and the principle sounds so right until you find yourself in a society where reactionaries who use freedom of speech to organize and then take over your society start ending your freedom of speech.

When you live through it, you suddenly see it differently.

You and a lot of other people who subscribe to this purity of usage of freedom of speech, have the opinion that freedom of speech is something that will endure and will just stay, if you just protect it. You treat it as if it was a 'god given right'. Natural in US political ideology spectrum in a way.

However the practical reality is that those who want to end your freedom of speech, do end it after taking over power by using that freedom of speech. It does not just endure and stay, and all attempts to protect freedom of speech further by those who protected the freedom of speech of those people who used freedom of speech for organizing a reactionary takeover of the society, are just frustrated by those reactionary forces.

But since most people here are agreeing with your arguments, I will end my contributions here. Let's just hope what is politically correct and patriotic is what is morally right, and that it stays that way indefinitely in the future.

This is not a matter of agreeing/disagreeing, neither it is a matter that pertains to this forum.

People like you dont seem to realize that this problem is an actual problem that is in your hands, inside your society, and your future will be determined by this. Its not something that will stay in the realm of principles or ideologies, it will shape your next 20-30 years at least. That is, if not the next 100 years or more.

I guess in the absence of universal principles, we always have hope to fall back on.

Let me put it into a non-conceptual, non-philosophical, solid practical context:

If and when these alt-right people who are increasingly going extreme get sufficient power, you will be considered a questionable person who engages in heretical spiritual material. They will seek to not only repress and shape you as they want, and they will definitely target spiritual communities, leave aside this particular forum.

At that point, no amount of freedom of speech advocacy will do any good, because these people just dont care about your freedom of speech.

That is the real question facing you people.