05-24-2019, 11:26 AM
(05-24-2019, 09:48 AM)Minyatur Wrote:(05-24-2019, 03:08 AM)Relaxo Wrote:(05-23-2019, 06:19 PM)unity100 Wrote:(05-23-2019, 05:33 PM)anagogy Wrote:(05-23-2019, 05:26 PM)blossom Wrote: It can't be right.. we are making dark jokes about nazis,holocaust,rape,racism,9/11,school shootings/genocide, every form of suffering is being made into a laughable meme, how are we allowing ourselves to make it seem ok? like it has no side effect on our thinking? doesn't it seem like we are losing our compassion into a form of insanity, laughing at other's suffering? (im sorry for my poor language it's so difficult for me to say what I want to say right now.)
I'm not laughing at other peoples suffering. But each to their own. Sometimes comedy is a way of accepting things.
You are not. But others are. The real intention of such things are normalizing such things and making them appear lightweight offenses, and if possible, even justifiable.
You and other generations which grew up with the knowledge and education which teaches that such things are unacceptable and inhumane.
But new generations growing up in an environment where such things are made lightweight jokes will have a much lighter perspective about such atrocities. Which prepares the environment for raising sociopaths.
Hitlerjugend was just raised in less than a decade. All you need to raise such a generation is to create an environment like that and take one generation that is currently growing up and start conditioning them in between ages 7 and or at most 12/15. Over 12, it becomes progressively harder. Radical islamists who raise suicide bombers and other radicals also do the same - condition them early.
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This is exactly like the concept of free unregulated market in capitalism: It doesnt matter whether 90% of the players are decent. 1% to 10% of the players who stop at nothing for their own profit will totally destroy the system and take it over for their benefit.
So it doesnt matter whether you, your social circle, and even a larger group which you belong to are decent people who would not use such things as to normalize atrocities and then use them for creating fascists. The other few percent of the people who would do that, are enough.
exactly this - the level of sociopathy in generation z (and millennials) is increasing exponentially - it terrifies me... did anyone on b4 other than Jade watch the video Jade posted? It's basically were I've been coming from for decades... because my father saw Nazi MURDERS - and I studied Nazi Germany in school...
George Santayana-1905 said, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
I have a parent who experienced the results of and is still in living memory of ACTUAL NAZISM
You're being radicalised Anagogy. And I don't say that lightly (or with any malice towards you). I say it with deep concern.
And your beliefs are wholesale. Textbook - they're from the playbook of disenfranchised young white male Americans who hate feminism, social justice - are libertarian, angry, experience no triggering (as the world is set up for them) so are irritated by people becoming triggered (ie: alarmed, frightened, feeling threatened - BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SUBJECT TO ACTUAL PAST VIOLENCE) - because you can't relate to triggering because you're at the top of the pyramid/hierarchy (comparatively).
What was your reaction to the video Jade posted?
did you watch it Anagogy?
(nb: I think he may have me on mute) -so if anyone else wants to ask him if he watched it - that could be helpful....
You have had an antipathy to me, Jade and several other members (now left) for our calling attention to your beliefs. FOR YEARS Jade and I and others have been reading your snide, dismissive, rude tone towards us. You are one of the main reasons I have so often left B4th... and when I recently came back you tried to intimidate me by posting an aggressive post trying to "out" me as xyz - "monikers" - it doesn't matter who I was in the past - it's none of your freaking business when you're one of the bullying snide people that were the main reason I've left so often.
And for others here on B4 - see how he's speaking here in this thread? Especially so passive-aggressively to Jade? THIS IS why I've left so often.
Then tried to come back here with fresh energy - but he (and isis) have been obsessed with 'finding me' and harassing me again.
well - not this time.
That video Jade posted - that's what's happening to you
He just said each their own comedy and that sadly is free will. You can't pick and decide for others what they like and are drawn to and if a set of people resonates together on something you dislike then that is who they are.
Of course I can't - I don't expect that I can
Your choice then is about your own heart, where do you want what you feel for them to vibrate?
The part where he said spirits do laugh at us much more than we do at ourselves was missing, but went with that part. I think it is true that outside of incarnation, part of healing is learning to laugh at your own self and that drama that you had. Best would be to attain it while in incarnation. Then again, someone that laughs at another and not at themselves may very well just be blocked, but never lightening past things is heavy and not healing. When people are triggered by this sort of dissociative comedy, I think it resonates the part of them that is emotionally stuck and they resist its elevation.
In the Law of One there is no victim, there is the One with its free will. I think part of moving upward is to quit keeping things separate in your heart and when you reach high enough you see you were truly the center of your own path, others that hurt you answered your need through unconscious resonance and nothing was truly any random. You're even more likely to need to forgive yourself for having had need of someone to be broken and hurt you than you're likely to have grudge, although both fall away. I find this easier to do with the self, because I am able to distill symbolism in the events that happen to me and truly in this you will never see disservice nor random events. Doing this takes a lot of self-awareness and self-honesty but it is there whether you do the conscious realization or not, doing so enables you to see the way things work and become manifest and connect to the underlying truth beneath the ilusion in how everything is interconnected.
I believe what will really heal the world is to believe that all is well and radiate it, because that is the only way to love and forgive, so long you believe things are unwell you can neither love nor forgive and all your actions will be driven by your lower rays. Now this is not a one time thing and instead an on-going process with each thing that you are in relation to.
I get the idea to see it as loving to be triggered, but you say yourself you are triggered because of past experiences that are not related to the people found in this thread. I do not believe it is the self's responsability to avoid touching inadvertedly what is hurt in another and the movement also offers a catalyst that can be used for healing. Will you want to remain stuck emotionally where you are feeling stuck and justify it to be so or will you untie your personal knot?
A lot about the spiritual path requires faith, because it is the ilusion that creates separation and focusing on the ilusion is to entertain it. If you fight oppression with oppression, then you did not make someone mindful of the well being of another and instead are more likely to have reninforced the initial desire to oppress. It's a bit how you assume banning speedforce taught him how to be nicer but have you consisered, given the things he said previously, that he may have seen himself as a martyr silenced for speaking the truth and then may just be even more hardcore the next place he visits? Crucifying him for his cause seems like what will make him more sure of himself.
I did not say I am triggered by this thread - I said I was bullied in the past on B4 - but now have the strength to deal with it. I was supporting people who use the word 'trigger' to help people understand.
Here's how simple it is - a person who has been raped, will benefit from a warning if a discussion/article/documentary is going to head in the direction of discussing or describing assault especially sexual assault; so they can choose to avoid it... It's utterly insensitive to scorn that need.
I do not think the banning of speedforce will 'make him nicer' and that is not what I said.
I'm too tired to keep arguing this. If you don't get it - you don't get it.