Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts?

[Minyatur]

Thank you Minyatur I see in what sense the question would address something else than simply the concept of giving oneself  to save someone else.  It is just that it might happen to be the case once in a while. Unless we consider the ISIS mode of functioning in the way they recruit young people.  Perhaps the title might have been then, could in certain cases martyrs be self-inflicted torture, or something in that way ?    

I have to say I never considered that when I was visiting the thread, and I understand Jade's point of view, I was not seeing the thread as you just pointed.

I think it makes more sense if you have known people with deep orange ray imbalances in your life. A single word of reprimand can shatter them down for a very long time and they would do anything for a word of praise because that is the only time they feel worth, it isn't very balanced to not have your own self esteem and it becomes, in those circumstances, the first step to walk on the positive path I believe.

I think the thread was heavily centered upon the imbalance of motives and how it becomes a form of addiction because of them. I do agree there is a lot of that. A lot of my lessons in this life seem to resolve around respecting what I feel in the face of others and in the long run I think it is easy to see that this is what enables you to really become positive, to find true respect for what others also feel as it freely moves through you. Shutting yourself down and such does little but dim your light to a point it might just become extinguished.

Like I said in my post, due to how heavily imbalanced this world is, actual selfless martyrs are probably a rarity. So I think the thread title addresses the general trend of it and how it is more often than not portrayed, expressed and inspires others. I tend to think it is more loving to wish someone to be well than to become a martyr, if everyone effectively did become one, would not the world simply become void of joy?

I've just remembered a Qu'ote from L/L Research on facebook from 3 days ago that kinda goes along what I think was beneath this thread:

It would be preferable…to hope for, and aim for, taking the life itself lightly, so that there is not that feeling of struggle with the spiritual path but rather a feeling of playing and dancing and even romping with the spiritual path. There is something in the work ethic that suggests that it is important to work hard, even on the spiritual path. Yet, we would suggest that there are other ways to frame this effort so that it is effortless and simply becomes a game that is fun to play and fun to think about. Then, where before you were worrying or striving, you now are relaxed and moving in a dance, graceful and light-stepping, ready to laugh, ready to let it go and simply be. - Q'uo

That is more what I wish to inspire others and mainly the issue that I have with martyrhood, how I simply wish people on this path a better path from which, unexpectedly, they may, perhaps, do even more.
Who knows though, maybe this is also just negative philosophy. The spiritual path ought to be hardship and all about sacrifice!