Are martyrs actually selfish auto-addicts?

[Minyatur]

To reiterate on what I already said in my initial post, it seems to me that the thread addresses deep orange ray imbalances and so I don't think it addressed, nor denied, what an actual open heart is. We live in a society with deep traumas and imbalances, the cases of an individual being balanced and active in the green ray in making a self sacrifice probably is much rarer than it being something other altogether. What is then something other? Lower ray imbalances and blockages that deny an active green ray. As such, on the outside there may be cases where we can label, in the physical sense, acts to be "serving others" but if there are imbalances in the perception of self and other-self this is not done through empathy, nor does it touch the green ray. A lack of self-worth is a good example, because others are just what is not the lowly self, serving them means to have value, but there is a total lack of empathy and interconnection in what is felt, just a sense of feeding the self a false sense of worth that is never satisfied and there you get the principle of addiction to it.

I'm not saying there can't be a degree of orange ray imbalances to have an open heart, heck that is still balanced in 4D, but any distortion there does impede the green ray in the same fashion a yellow ray distortion does impede the green ray. In the confusion of separating self and other-selves, I believe there is often a great great lack of sincerity in one's thoughts and beliefs. Like believing you can forgive something to someone that you wouldn't forgive yourself, that's not true and instead just lying to yourself. You mentally abstract what someone actually is as them being something unlike yourself, which they are not and you become convinced that your self-judgment does not transpose to them, when in an energetic sense it really does. So if you see yourself as worthless in face of the great others, or if you see yourself as without value, this is what you actually sincerely feel about others and if you see them focusing on their well being you will just feel disdain because that's not something you given to yourself. It is quite easy to see and understand if you just ponder for a second the nature of the rays and their hierarchy in how energy moves through them.

Now I don't say that redchartreuse was fully balanced and void of any frustration or such in his words, nor do I even think I am, but I do see an actual concern for portions of a society that, in many ways and for a lot of time, have tended to believe in a redemption through self-torture and instead wishes them a better way of life. In many ways wishing and encouraging others toward a path of martyrdom is actually wishing and encouraging them upon a path void of healing, nothing heals if you can't wish yourself well and what you radiate and offer others will be stuck at a level of self-worthlessness which is nothing healing.

A balanced entity that would be met with these remarks would simply smile and say it is fine and it is its choice, lightening all concerns about its well being or what it does. The unbalanced entity, like said in the OP, gets angry because its choice of being martyr is nothing healthy nor balanced with itself, it simply believes itself to be nothing if it does not do that and that is not helpful toward harvest. Like I said already, how you interact with yourself matters a lot in how you feel about others, because you are their incarnation that you are most intimate with.

tl;dr: That the thread was about negative philosophy is, IMHO, a deep delusion and misses the sense of concern found in it.