05-20-2019, 03:08 PM
(05-20-2019, 02:31 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:(05-20-2019, 12:49 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I too am of the opinion reason matters and most times when I see a strong rejection of reason or wisdom, it is not so much to defend compassion but to defend anger and frustrations that become grouped as if they were also compassion, when they are not. Oftentimes, it seems that when a cause is involved and there was a root of hertfelt compassion, one tends to become blind to their own energy when they exchange with those that they see as part of the problem. While there is an idea that it is a fight for compassion, one may have lost sight that they have long moved away from the moments they were indeed in a place of compassion. Here wisdom would play as that you realize that if you meet racism with anger for it, you will just accentuate it, reason brings you then the choice of whether you want to accentuate racism in self-righteousness or move once more toward the heart and a place of compassion and acceptance.
I think you are subtly misunderstanding what others have attempted to say. The point isn't to reinforce or encourage the anger that is misperceived as compassion, the point is to have compassion and acceptance for the anger, and understand that it can't just be erased or washed away in an instant. Acceptance does not have to involve enabling. Trying to "reason" people of feeling angry or hurt or like victims doesn't work, as most of us know. It just makes them angrier and feel more victimized. The green ray is healing, acceptance and compassion are healing, this is what people long for, and what they are so angry about lacking. It's metaphysical and not logical.
For instance, in the other thread, speedforce claimed that trans people were mentally ill and the proof was that they commit suicide more often. What isn't realized is that the reason trans people commit suicide more often is because society so thoroughly rejects them, so they would rather die than have to live as the gender that has tormented them their whole life. Acceptance of a male child's inclinations towards being more feminine and vice versa from the get go can help prevent the type of confusion that rejection and repression over a long period of time can cause. Maybe, if they experienced more acceptance for who they were, they wouldn't feel like they had to go to such extremes as to surgically alter their physical bodies to be accepted by society. And even if someone does want to alter their body permanently, we should, on some level, accept that as a configuration of another being. But this ultimately is a sick symptom of our whole society, it's much more socially acceptable for people who aren't trans to get plastic surgery. Trans people get singled out when the problems we speak of are pervasive.
Who knows, maybe someday soon I'll sound like some old person who scorns the kids for getting tattoos and piercings, saying that body modification is a symptom of a sick society. Heck, for some people, it's probably the cure for their mental illness. Either way, we have to accept that this exists, that there is extreme nuance in the problem, and that maybe wisdom lies in allowing the full expression of a person's (often very legitimate) anger in the moment and not insisting they repress that anger by use of reason. Acceptance and compassion releases anger. Sure, reason can too, but again, why encourage someone to skip that ever important step of loving, accepting, and having compassion for their anger and experiences that have injured them? And having compassion for the experiences for others - even if at times, part of that process is righteous anger. I think there is also often righteous anger on the path of reason.
I personally just don't think you can dissociate them. Balancing is a lot about experiencing and realizing, and since this is the density of self-awareness it is more about yourself than realizing others for them. So you can't as much reason anger in someone as you can reason your own anger after having lived it multiple times, seeing that there is something beneath it for example and that just being angry disallows you to address what is beneath the anger. I think it even takes reason to accept your anger, because if you are just living it like stuck in a pattern, you are never so much recognizing what it is. Anger often comes out as an abstraction of what it is really rooted in and realizing the root is what alleviates it, but it has its own purpose in being a defense mechanism and should not be denied either.
Anyhow, I'm not saying that what I say on this forum is what needs to be told to people on the street. I see this forum as a written platform that gathers seekers that were drawn to a material that offers information, so understanding is more what can be balanced here because of the nature of the medium and its context. Like in the case of anger, maybe more than denying someone's anger with reason you can just reason yourself that there is something beneath it and try to address that without denying the anger. So while it is not that bad for you to become angry together with the person, maybe just saying something like "It is understandable to be angry" in a compassionate energy already makes a chink in the shelled-armor that hinders that person to heal.