Why the hate for wisdom?

[Jade]

I don't think its "dramatic". There are literally people in this thread suggesting we should put new forum members on "probation" until they prove they are worthy to stay here. Or maybe we should enforce that rule about not having a thousand different bring4th accounts (cough).  

This is an example of something that is against the rules and if you see someone with multiple accounts, we do rely on people to speak up. However, isn't silencing a sock puppet also an attack on free speech or deplatforming? Anyway, everyone is welcome to create a new account, we just discourage people from having simultaneous accounts.

When I see people intimating any kind of restriction on free speech, I will happily speak out against it, because I think it is downright service to self. Obviously if there is a personal attack, action is of course warranted.

Cool, I think this is a little black and white, but I can see why you think that way. Most posts we have removed and most people we have moderated in any way were done so because of personal attacks. It's hard to know what posts have been removed if you return to a thread and they are already gone. I'm certain just about every post I removed in this thread contained a personal attack. So what are you actually upset about if you agree with that type of moderation?

But obviously this forum isn't just about discussing green ray. This would be a very boring place if it was. I mean just look at the sheer number of subject categories. That would be absolutely silly trying to cram each and every one of those topics into "discussing green ray".

Honestly, the reason I like this place is because there isn't a TON of moderation. I just hope it stays that way.

I doubt it. We're pretty fed up as mods, just so everyone knows. But we always welcome feedback so you are heard! I'm just trying to be transparent with our intentions. But, there is a line with being too contentious with the mods and disagreeing with the rules, because this is just distracting. Like I said, our rules are actually strict, even if our moderation isn't. It's kind of a bait and switch to say we don't allow people to be disrespectful or post negative philosophies here and then not regulate those types of posters. We all agreed to these rules, even I did as a moderator. It may be hard to believe but I also believe in free speech and no moderation, in most spaces. You might laugh, but I'm actually an anarchist. This space wasn't created by me, I'm just here to follow/enforce the rules, because I love this philosophy but mostly, because I love Gary Bean and I know he thinks moderating this forum is the absolute worst gig in L/L Research, so I'm happy to help with that burden to ease his mind because he works so hard, and if I quit that means someone else has to do it. And while I'm sure everyone else would love to wake up in the morning with threatening PMs full of "f*ck you" like I have in my inbox, I'm just not willing to share this really awesome honor that I just love so much. 

An internet forum, much like everything else, is like a garden. Yes, I literally feel bad when I am outside and I have to pull weeds, which is why I even avoid too much gardening! However, a good gardener doesn't let the weeds choke out the plants that will feed them. I don't mean for the analogy to be harsh, I just see more nuance than "any restriction on free speech is bad!!!" This isn't a free speech zone. It's a service to others forum with a code of conduct. I think I've said this a few times now. I believe that most people who post here are actually cool with that. We have a vision we are trying to cultivate, and this takes some encouragement of direction, and not just letting everyone post absolutely everything they want. It's not like we're calling people's internet providers and showing them the violent threats they are making - that would actually be more akin to what you are accusing us of, and we actually have every right. The internet is wide and vast, and this forum is very small. There are many places where you won't be "silenced" and those are the places to have the discussions that we don't want here.