01-04-2011, 10:25 PM
(01-04-2011, 11:38 AM)unity100 Wrote:That's what I thought I was implying.(01-03-2011, 09:59 PM)zenmaster Wrote: This may mean that the dual-activated brain, the body complex's "device driver" for the mind complex, will necessarily have some 3D limitations when accessing 4D mind.
i think it would be more like the mind, capable of 4d activity, would be difficulties in manifesting the thoughts/feelings/ideas related to 4d, due to the limitations of the body.
(01-04-2011, 11:38 AM)unity100 Wrote:I would think the opposite: they would start out disoriented, because most of the initial access would be the 3rd-density societal mind, then gradually form a 4d SMC, as more and more of that mind could be accessed.(01-03-2011, 09:59 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Anyway, another interesting thing is that like 90% the entities on the new 4D earth will be from another Logos, since there will be very few local 3D graduates. So although these 4D wanderers now have a new long-term home, they would naturally feel a little strange with the natural patterns, just like the 3D-incarnated wanderers did.
depends on total population of the 4d sphere though.
it is no question that new 4d incarnates are going to be increasingly uncomfortable and incompatible with existing society, and its societal mind.
(01-04-2011, 11:38 AM)unity100 Wrote:I did not mean a fixation, just however they choose to live, which presumably is based on what has been prior experience and evolves to that which their higher-selves had programmed. They are new to 4D.. there is no 4D memory or culture, but they are referencing all of their memory from their respective 3D lives which had learned enough of the "lessons of love" (or better - lessons of the logos) to make sufficiently informed choices. As more and more join the 4D SMC, all that info becomes shared.(01-03-2011, 09:59 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The 4D "culture" would still presumably obtain a seeking-style bias from the majority of one particular group of incarnates - all now remembering their past lives to some extent. I wonder what the mixture would be like, and how random a set up it actually is?
maybe or maybe not. the 'seeking' fixation seems to be a particularity of this local logos. in 4d, since the veil is not there, there wont be a particular bias/mechanic for seeking or enforcing seeking or hampering it so that 'those who actually seek would be more intensified'.
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(01-04-2011, 11:38 AM)unity100 Wrote: however apart from these, the main question still remains : what differentiates 3d, and 4d, and whether any material that is vibrating in these two different spectrums, can collide, or not.
It appears that during the transitional period, nature allows and supports growth of both types of bodies with obviously a great deal of proximate interaction and compatibility. The 3D body and mind, however, will be supported less and less due to the reduction in yellow ray matrix.
Apparently, the 3D body can survive in the dual environment up until the point there is no longer any supporting yellow-ray activity. But since the transition is longer than the average lifetime, there simply will be no 3D material available to collide. Remember the 3D "body" or material is supported directly by 3D mind - it's not at all like the 1D body (with its physical chemicals). If, however, scientists find a way to increase lifespan (i.e. genetic discoveries), it seems there could be a problem.
Also, if all new births after a certain point will be 4D, it seems that we should be hearing a great deal about a strange new phenomenon: more and more pregnant mothers (of dual-activated babies) experiencing a great feeling of the connection and the use of spiritual energies.
So maybe we'll have these mothers being regarded by some as shamans, and people will go to them for advice, healing, and what not.