Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence

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Do you have an example where they used quantum to refer to sub-density? I would be interested to see that if you have an example.

I'll search. If I find I'll post.

You see here it appears to me, that again they are referring to densities. When they talk about some utilizing the 8th level, in my opinion they are referring to the octave density, because there is no 8th subdensity. When they say we all exist in the fourth dimension, they are referring to the fact that we are in the 4th density space/time continuum right now. We are still 3D in structure, but we are being gradually molded by the new space/time parameters as we gradually morph into 4th density physical.

Just analyse the question: "...and you also said that you were enjoying our fifth dimension". "Our" means not the fifth dimension of the ET's. But the fifth dimension of our third density. So, I believe Latwii was talking about the dimensions of third density. Probably "all of you exist on fourth dimension" referred to astral plane, because all people can access, but the other planes are more restricted.

And, do you believe is possible a 3D entity go to another density (a true color density not sub-density plane)? I don't believe. On another transcript is said that isn't possible go to another density:

Questioner: Yes, thank you. I got a letter today from a brother who is very, very busy seeking Nirvana of the quickie variety and he would like to know the answer to a question which is difficult for me to fathom. However, I will ask it as he asked it because I would very much appreciate being able to send him a reply. He has studied under a yogic philosophy for many years and would very much like to return to the source. He identifies this source as being at the ninth density. He would like to know if it is possible to bypass all the intervening densities in this lifetime and go back to the source using his yogic practices. Could you comment on these concepts and help our brother, who is truly an earnest seeker, in any way that you see appropriate, please?

I am Laitos, and am aware of your question. We are also aware that entities such as this brother upon your planet at this time seek with great intensity the meaning of their lives and a path which might bring them that which might be called enlightenment. Many are the ways which your peoples have chosen to seek this path throughout the history of your planet. Each path has provided integral pieces of the puzzle, shall we say, which are most necessary for the sincere seeker to utilize in the polarization of the self to a degree which is, shall we say, harvestable. Many such paths have produced those called the saints, the avatars, the gurus, each of which, through disciplined exercises of many kinds, has been able to balance the centers of energy in your mind and body/mind/spirit complex to a degree that is necessary for this harvest into the next density of the illusion of the one Creator. Each discipline, while providing a viable path for the spiritual evolution, also contains those facets which may be considered distortions or misapprehensions of certain spiritual qualities and descriptions.

It is our humble understanding that the path of spiritual evolution must be one which is straight and narrow and of some considerable length, traveling through many illusions and densities with the one goal of becoming one with the Creator. What this means for each entity in any illusion is that the instreamings of the love/light of the one Creator are available for use by each entity; this love/light or prana being channeled through the energy centers or chakras, if you will, in such a manner that the light is used efficiently, each density providing the seeker of union with a greater intensity of light.

Upon the completion of the cycle of incarnations in any density an entity is given the opportunity to, shall we say, grade itself by being bathed in the light of the one Creator until it is no longer able to withstand or utilize the increasing intensity of light. This light has degrees shall we say, of vibration. When the entity can no longer withstand or use the light, then it stops at that point and that point falls where it may. Wherever it falls it is then the entity’s choice, by its own ability to use the light, to continue its study in the appropriate illusion which matches the intensity of light which has been utilized.

Few there are upon your planet at this time who can withstand the intensity of the light of the fourth density. For this light is what might be called a quantum leap beyond that which you now experience within your third density. If any entity were to experience it for but a moment and be able to withstand it, for that moment that entity would feel indeed that it had returned to its Source and would most likely be quite appreciative of that experience. For such seekers as your brother to desire to progress more rapidly than is possible, shall we say, realizing that all things are possible, is a commendable trait, but one which is not likely to be realized, for though your density provides an intense degree of catalyst and opportunity for traveling the spiritual path, to the best of our knowledge, it does not provide enough catalyst to build the polarity necessary to, shall we say, skip any density.

To the best of our knowledge, when this octave of densities is completed the individualized entities will find themselves at the level of the eighth density— one with the Source of this particular creation. But our teachers have not themselves found such union nor have their teachers told them of an end to such progressions.

We shall continue. For an entity to return to the Source does not mean the end to evolution. For an entity to desire to progress spiritually as rapidly as possible is quite commendable, but we would suggest that it is most necessary to learn to walk, shall we say, before one runs or flies or soars beyond the start. Yours is a density in which the child learns to crawl. Rejoice in the opportunities which are thusly presented to you.

When they talk about some utilizing the 8th level, in my opinion they are referring to the octave density, because there is no 8th subdensity.

Perhaps in "...as far as the eighth" they were talking about all third density as one thing. This is, people who can acess all dimensions.

And we know from Ra quotes that there is a chemical body in fourth density, unless you believe that is distortion.

On the transcripts they refers fourth density as electrical. I don't know why. I can search the stretchs. But, this is only important to understand that they were talking about third density body.

But again, they both occupy the same physical plane.

It's because the three first densities are about physical development. On the fourth starts spiritual refinement. It's like the planes. Astral level start becoming very different from physical plane. So, all the three first densities occurs in the physical plane. The others, on astral, mental, etc. characteristic environments.