01-02-2011, 12:13 AM
(01-01-2011, 12:00 PM)thefool Wrote: So called Devil is in the details and I say that God is also in the details. These little details of life will tell you your life plans and your blocks and your lessons. Just observer the common patterns and you have it.
Well said!
zenmaster Wrote:Have you considered that the crawling and learning applies to intellectual thought as well?
No, I hadn't considered that. What type of intellectual thought were you thinking of? Certainly philosophy is an area that could be developed best within incarnation, especially as things such as the nature of good and evil are concerned. With a veil in place, there is no proof that we exist after we die (by and large). So philosophizing about the nature of murder, for example, may carry more weight in the mind. What about scientific thought? Not so sure about that one. That seems more like "look-up" information that doesn't need to be experienced first hand. (presuming such information has already been figured out by someone somewhere in the billions+ years that this octave has been around, and assuming that information is stored in an akashic type library) I guess what we might say is a determining factor for seeing what's important to think about / do within incarnation is, is there any way to learn that particular thing without doing it yourself? For, say, learning the importance of staying true to a spouse can't be fully learned just by hearing someone else talk about it. But by committing to someone yourself and learning all that you can from that experience is the only way to really "know". Science things don't seem that way to me- just like figuring out that 2 + 2 = 4 could be "looked up" (in the akashic records if nowhere else). Does that make sense... I guess to sum up my first draft opinion here, I'd wager that if the intellectual learning you propose involves someone else or some sort of catalyst then it would be worthy of attention in space/time. But things that don't require that might be less important? Also there are the densities and their various themes to consider. 3rd denisty being the arena of polarization / choice, or learning the ways of love. 4th being of love, but focused on wisdom. 5th being of wisdom, but focused on unity... 6th being unity and focused on becoming all that is. I've always sort of thought that 5th density was where intellectual thought really counts the most. Here in 3rd, as we prep for 4th, learning to love must certainly count for more than learning intellectually?
zenmaster Wrote:Also, as you point out, we know it already (in some manner or capacity). But the point is coming to know in a certain way, with our new perspectives - this offers more. In one sense, the recapitulation 'struggle' is the whole point. Our personality biases are like tools to become what we already were, in precisely this naive manner. Also, by going through such a exercise, the information is made that much more accessible, or bridged, to other seekers.
Great point. Our personalities are so varied... there is no one else exactly like us in creation. Thus, how we experience something is unique. I can well imagine that as we pass from life to life to life, we choose to do the same things over and over again, just to distill that sort of uniqueness from whatever that experience we're repeating is. Eventually we may decide to stop... "I'm totally done with this whole drowning on a ship at sea thing- never again!"
zenmaster Wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I've already tasted the higher-vibration resonance, felt the truth and ability, love, therein. I do not inflate the experience, or long for it, or marginalize the lower possibilities in its light. Holistically, this same effort at determining things here is what makes us what we are. This is where things are actually made the most 'real'...the 'axis' of creation.
Yes.. and that axis of creation is that "now" moment, which of course is all that exists and ever will. We are what we think about, I agree. To bring the conversation full circle, the popular debunker Michael Shermer once said: "I am my brain". Humorous to me, because he intended it as a statement of absolute materialism, but if you read in to the statement slightly differently he is saying the same as we're discussing now.
Shemaya Wrote:When it comes to energy blockage, the body is our tool for discernment. Just feel your body and focus on that. Does you throat feel constricted or is there a pain in your heart? What do you feel in your body, this awareness is the beginning of being able to clear the blockage and allow more energy to flow through your body.
Great tip. I hope I can remember to use it- usually when I run in to situations where I do experience physical distortions like that I am too emotionally engrossed in whatever situation it is that I'm in to stop and think of anything else. I have the same problem using the 'where is the love in this moment?' tip. Maybe some day I'll be zen enough to use this tools well.