Its murder.

[Monica]

In a wild, out there, kind of way, I suppose I don't really believe in the existence of cruelty.

A trip to a slaughterhouse might change one's perspective about cruelty.

I had a house-mate who did a Perelandra garden one year, and used a pendulum to work with the nature fairies to design every aspect of the garden - when to plant what, where, and how much of it. I remember that it was a stunningly vibrant and pretty garden, and I think we didn't have any pest problems as well.

Cool! I read The Findhorn Garden many years ago, and then visited Findhorn. Such an amazingly beautiful place, right in the middle of a barren area! Communicating with the plant devas works.

So, sister, it's where you say "needlessly torture animals" that I don't quite resonate to your question.

I was referring to contributing to the suffering of animals by supporting the meat industry, when it isn't necessary.

We're all carrying out our soul's purpose.

But we have free will.

My own folks were mixed up in the Holocaust thing,

As victims or as victimizers? That would affect their views on it.

I don't think we should carry any blame for what our ancestors did, though.

but as I sit here it seems to me that Mr. H wasn't really cruel. He was rather pursuing his soul's purpose,

My dear friend Allen, you know how much I appreciate you and your friendship. But I would have to respectfully and strongly disagree with you here.

I understand that, from the Creator's perspective, we are all just carrying out our soul's purpose. But, 3D is the density of Choice. Respect for other-selves on a soul level is appropriate, even for someone like Hitler.

But that doesn't mean we have to approve of, or even withhold any discernment whatsoever, when evaluating his actions.

Sometimes their 'soul purpose' is to give us something to contrast with, as we choose the STO path.

Even Q'uo doesn't refrain from making choices. Q'uo has stated, "The STS path is a bloody path...we are not of that path." (paraphrased)

It's ok to say, "What Hitler did was cruel. It was of the bloody path. I am not of that path." which isn't putting a judgment on his soul, but it IS making a choice about what is and what is not acceptable to those choosing the STO path.

It is to be noted, too, that Hitler failed to polarize either way, but was so confused that his soul had to be tended and healed.

I came across somewhere the ties between the Bush's and the Nazi regime,

That's a whole 'nother topic there.

I don't think it's the choices that matter. I think it's our attitudes towards our choices.

Here is something I invite you to ponder:

Why is 3rd Density called The Choice?

Since I am a human mess though, in 3D right now regardless of what density I came from, wisdom, or even love, are going to be fleeting for me. The veil is too intense, and my soul purpose too maelstromey. If I were inclined to be a yogi, or some such that just meditated, then I could maybe, I think, chip away at the furor of my confusion, abate it some, but that is not my thing.

Thank you for sharing, Allen! and for opening your heart and baring your soul to us. I hope you visit Bring4th more often! We are all trying to clear the confusion. You are not alone!

Namaste