Correspondence Between Densities and Traditional Planes of Existence

[Infinite Unity]

To me Ra's list of bodies is also confusing. First they list three physical (outer) bodies according to three lower densities. Then at once it shifts to inner plane (non-physical) bodies.

17.36 Questioner: I’ve heard that there are seven astral and seven devachanic primary levels. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak of some of the more large distinctions in levels in your inner planes. That is correct.

Is there one inner plane (with several levels) fo each density? What does "your" mean in the quote above? I thought the astral planes are the inner planes of 1d-4d and devachanic inner plane corresponds to 5d.

In my opinion, there is one physical plane, one lower astral, one middle astral, one higher astral, one devachanic, and one causal, and one buddhic. Each density exists in each of those planes because each density has an inner and outer.  For example, a rock, a cat, and a human all sit there in the same physical plane. These beings are different densities, but occupy the same plane. But there could be other physical things, for example a fourth density physical being, that you don't have the appropriate sensory systems to detect, even though they are also physical, just like you can't perceive the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The same multi density occupation happens in every inner plane I listed (lower astral, devachanic etc.)

You could say that there are infinite levels to the physical level, astral levels, devachanic level, though. It just depends how you want to quantify it. You can subdivide physical planes, and ethereal planes infinitely. Seven within seven within seven, ad infinitum.

When Ra says "your inner planes", they mean, in my opinion, the portion of the inner planes that contain 3rd density consciousness. But as I pointed out with the physical plane example, different densities can interact in different inner planes. Just like the rock, the cat, and the human interact. The higher in density you are the more complex your reflection, or manifestation, becomes on each inner plane and physical plane.

When you dream, that's time/space, right?

You don't need a body there, so does time/space not have a body?

You have the perception of a body, usually, which is made out of the "thought stuff" or "thought form" of that plane. The consistency of this "thought form" is consonant with what inner plane you are on. Astral levels will resemble physical to the extent you are conscious, and higher levels are more abstract.

If there are an infinite number of planes, are they all discrete?
Like you cannot be in two planes at once, or have them overlap?

They can nonlinearly interact with each other. A physical human typically doesn't have the capability to do this though consciously. Other physical beings might have more complex brains that allow this.

So when you close your eyes and see images, are you seeing another plane?
Or is that just the 3D chemical brain images?

I'm doing meditation now, seeking inward, trying to find answers, and wanting to know if what I see is real.

You are seeing snippets of the astral plane, to some extent. That doesn't mean they are conveying valid information though. A lot of it is just nonsense. Just like dreams are often nonsense. Other times, they are not nonsense. Discernment takes a long time to develop. Law of attraction is way faster in the inner planes, because they are faster vibrating.

I see the other densities as other octaves. The fourth density planes (space/time and time/space) are from another vibration above the yellow octave. So, we can't go to the fourth density, it's necessary to have a fourth density body. As the astral plane is the sub-density of fourth, for this reason I supposed fourth density has astral characteristics. For example, Ra said that in fifth density the entity function only by thought. That's the same description of the mental plane of the traditions.

If I understand you correctly, I would agree to a large extent. The physicalization of the true color will cause the crystallization (the physical plane) of that density to conform to the characteristics of the natural ray. They also mentioned in one session where the fifth density negative, accompanying the Ra channeling was leaving their physical body and traveling to them in their time/space body to work their psychic attacks on them.

Edit: Intersting passage of "Autobiography of an Iogue" when the deceased master of Yogananda appears to him in which seems a fourth density body. He talks about an "astral planet" and a new body:

Source: http://yogananda.com.au/aoy/beyond_death_1.html

Yes, that description by his master sounds very much like a fourth density planet, especially where he talks about them still being able to be injured but they can heal themselves with thought. Seems more evidence that fourth density physical is like a "physicalized higher astral".

Thanks for sharing. Very interesting.

"Inner Planes" to me is where 3d conscience is stationed. We must remember that there is no true movement, and everything is actually static, with the illusion of movement. "Inner Planes" could equate as time/space, the mental realm, However there are large differences between 3d inner planes, and 4d inner planes, and so on. Mainly in the information influx, and possible "movement" within these realms etc....

I would also agree that every density, is comparable to the larger: macrocosmic scale of the octave structure. There are Infinite "repetitions" equating through the entire system/scale. Like your cells, to you, as you are to the Earth, and so on at Infinium.

The fundamentals of Intelligence or the Original Identity, are.....inescapable, as they are still the generator/creator of all that is. These fundamentals are aspects like organization.