(12-30-2010, 03:49 AM)JoshC Wrote: Indeed, one of my friends turned into a doorknob
HAHA!
(12-30-2010, 03:49 AM)JoshC Wrote: Just a simple difference of opinion here, I doubt this would happen - it seems very unlikely to me, as in an extreme outlier.
I defer to your experience.
Apparently, different people have different experiences with it, as with LSD. No doubt your experiences are valid. But so are the ones I read about, since they really did happen. Apparently, Salvia CAN be dangerous for SOME people.
(12-30-2010, 03:49 AM)JoshC Wrote: Quite right, time is extremely distorted in this state. From the time I smoked it to the time I was sober enough to check the time, I could have sworn hours went by during one of my bad trips on salvia.
When I had a bad acid trip, it lasted 16 hours, but felt like weeks. Time is distorted. I just meant that a lot can happen during the experience, and the short duration of actual linear time (10 minutes in the case of Salvia) isn't necessarily a safeguard.
(12-30-2010, 03:49 AM)JoshC Wrote: As for the scariness of it, I wonder if you have a case of the attracting-things-to-confirm-your-beliefs-ies and/or have seen the polar opposite of what scary stories you've read?
Heh, no more than anyone else I suppose. I've done my share of hallucinagens, so it's not like I had fears going into those experiences. As described on the above-mentioned thread, I had both ecstatic as well as terrifying experiences with LSD. This was 30 years ago, so I'm hardly an expert on the newer drugs (or newly popular ones like Salvia). I have no reason to have undue fears about them. I was just sharing what I had read about Salvia, since I was startled at the way the experiences were described. I've never heard of that happening with LSD, so it seemed to be in a different league.
I would advise caution with any hallucinogen. They are not party drugs and shouldn't be taken lightly, imo. It took me a whole year to recover from a bad acid trip. Yet, I don't regret the good trips. It's a double-edged sword and caution is reasonable. I don't think an attitude of throwing caution to the winds is advisable when ingesting strong chemicals.
I was 18-21 when I did hallucinagens. I wouldn't do them now, knowing what I know, with the Harvest approaching. But neither would I judge someone who is attracted to them. I would simply advise caution and respect to these powerful potential allies.