03-14-2019, 01:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-14-2019, 04:44 PM by redchartreuse.)
(03-14-2019, 12:32 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I'm just saying you cannot dissociate the two, the quality of sleep is what offers the greater opportunity of growth.
But we can dissociate them. It is entirely possible for a soul to take an incarnation wherein the veil is not penetrated to the slightest degree. And yet, growth occurs.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This query is more complex than most. We shall begin. The incarnation pattern of the beginning third-density mind/body/spirit complex begins in darkness, for you may think or consider of your density as one of, as you may say, a sleep and a forgetting. This is the only plane of forgetting. It is necessary for the third-density entity to forget so that the mechanisms of confusion or free will may operate upon the newly individuated consciousness complex.
It appears you have missed the context... they are referring to "the incarnation pattern of the beginning third-density MBSC."
We are not in the beginning of third density here, but the end. And those incarnated here are ostensibly those who were deemed most likely to grow. These are not "new" souls but those who have gone through 75,000 years of incarnative experiences. Maybe even a second or third round of it.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Given that our interpretation of your sound vibration complexes is appropriate, this is incorrect. The intensity of fourth density is that of the refining of the rough-hewn sculpture. This is, indeed, in its own way, quite intense causing the mind/body/spirit complex to move ever inward and onward in its quest for fuller expression. However, in third density the statue is forged in the fire. This is a type of intensity which is not the property of fourth, fifth, sixth, or seventh densities.
For one who spent their entire incarnation sleeping, there is no sculpture. Because there is no growth, and no polarization. No true identity. Therefore, they did not make it into fourth density, for there would be nothing for them to refine.
They did not achieve the purpose to their incarnation. And therefore, they will need to repeat the incarnation. Is this so "bad" in the ultimate sense? No, it isn't. However, I highly doubt that their Higher Self will make a determination that sending them back to a place rife with distractions made for sleeping would be a good next move. I'm guessing... their next life is going to entail even harsher catalyst in an environment where there aren't so many distractions available to them.
So... forgive me for my apparent missteps to try and spare a brother from the rod of future harsh catalyst. However, as I'm sure you know, this Creation has a lot more to offer in terms of harsh catalyst than a few pointed words from a passerby. It's funny... while we accept the value of harsh catalyst, we reject being the bearer of it, preferring to leave it to "somebody else" to do the dirty work.
Quote:A bit like I said before, it offers opportunity for experience. Learning is for one to see its reflection, all there is to learn about is yourself.
Then, perhaps, those in the sinkhole are here to energetically counterbalance the presence of those who have previously moved beyond polarity and achieved a sixth-density balance between love and wisdom.
It's a gambit, and yet one that appears to have not (yet) turned out well.
I do get the thrust of your replies. However, they are continuing to skirt the point I made about how the spiritual sleeping people did not choose to sleep... they were drugged, put to sleep, and their subconscious minds hacked and subverted into unwittingly serving a dark agenda.
I continue to be shocked and amazed at how many in the spiritual community (not necessarily you in particular) appear to be numb to this, and have adopted such a blasé attitude about it, preferring to soothe (i.e. serve) themselves with little spiritual quips and taglines, and snuggling up underneath the covers with their sleeping friends, instead of making a real effort to be of service to others. Or failing to act for fear of "losing their polarity."
To my view, those who just stand by and watch from the sidelines are the ones actually at greatest risk of polarity loss, since they are continually turning a blind eye toward opportunities to serve out of fear and self-concern. To be sure, there is a place for those who wish to watch from the sidelines... but it is for them to remain on the other side of the veil, and out of incarnation.