03-08-2019, 11:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-09-2019, 12:27 AM by redchartreuse.)
(03-08-2019, 04:12 PM)Louisabell Wrote: Hi redchartreuse, I don't think I've said hi to you before, so hello.
Hi!
Quote:I just wanted to let you know that I think there are a few vegans on B4 who do care deeply about the plight of cows and in my estimation are not "rabid" in the slightest. Of course I could be seeing the world through my own rabid goggles.
Sure, of course! I hope you didn't think I meant to imply that all vegans are rabid. My point is that it isn't the concern over vaccines (or cows) that is that problem, it is the rabid attitude that prevents one from seeing the larger picture, from which they might actually draw a connection to others.
For example, it doesn't appear that you would be of the rabid variety, since you took the time to say "hello" and then casually offered up some information.

In contrast, you could have chosen to copy-and-paste 10 pages of factory farm horror stories, along with a link to a autoplay video of a cow screaming in pain while being mishandled by a factory farm worker, and then claim that since I now have seen that information, I must needs immediately convert to veganism or else suffer total depolarization for failure to "take responsibility" for what I now know.
The first tactic creates bridges. The second not only destroys them, but then scorches the earth for a miles around ensuring that nobody will ever pass that way again.
Quote:1.many fruits we eat require cross-pollination and farmers help the bee population by setting up colonies on their orchards.
100%
Quote:2.livestock animals also consume food, usually from plants from deforested grazing land or mono-culture grain or soy crops - all destructive for bees. Conservation of energy means more calories go into livestock than we get out. This would explain why 26% of the Planet's ice-free land is used for livestock grazing and 33% of croplands are used for livestock feed production. So when you consume animal products, you are also consuming the plant matter it took to sustain that life.
Yes, absolutely. It's all bad for the bees. That's what I was attempting to say! By finding a focal point, or fulcrum, which is more fundamental to the problem, we can actually leverage that to cast our net wider in terms of recruiting others under the aegis of change. We don't need to further divide people up under problems A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and H, when we could place all our collective focus onto solving problem "I" which then would ripple out and take care of all those other things as well.
So, in bringing the analogy back to the topic of the thread, sure, we could continue to fight an endless battle between the rabid vaxxers and the rabid anti-vaxxers, and squander even more of our resources in the process, or we could all collectively turn our focus to dealing with the more fundamental problem: rabidness.
It's the rabidness... overzealousness... fanaticism... hysteria... extremism... fervor... that is at the root of so many of our societal problems. Transmute that, and there might be some hope for humanity yet.
It's more than a curious point to me how many spiritual seekers appear to be caught up in the notion that abandoning ourselves to our emotional and feeling natures is the key to progress, and conversely view our rational and sensible natures as somehow threatening or dangerous. Nobody started a war by being overly rational. And while you can make a very rational argument to an overly intellectual type as to why it is important for them to embrace their emotions, you cannot make any argument to an overly emotional type as to why it is important for them to embrace their intellect. They would just tend to get upset and storm out of the room.
All the while... or for at least as long as humanity has had the Tarot system introduced by Ra... we have been given very clear guidance that our objective here is to meld our thinking and feeling natures into a cohesive unit. In fact, using the Tarot itself is a very clever way of taking someone from their feeling nature (reacting to the colors, shapes, symbols, etc.) in the pictures, and into the realm of philosophical thought. But it does not function in the other direction. There is a reason for this. But one must be willing to reason in order to find out what that is.