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    03-05-2019, 07:45 PM
    (05-30-2013, 08:34 PM)xise Wrote: Thank you for your reply Chicken. I should have made it clearer that the proof, though general, was focused around the concept of loving actions in their entirety. If you could list some examples of loving actions in their entirety, as opposed to people/entities, in your own personal experience, it would greatly help my understanding I believe.

    But in any case, thank you for your thoughts!!



    Xise,

    I really loved your suppositions 1 to 5, and once having read them, and thought a little about them, [ as a frog I refrain thinking too long about anything ]  I found that is is really close to how I see or feel this to be.  Particularly the conclusion of 4 and 5.

    Because I am a bit daft, I am not sure what you refer as the concept of loving actions in their entirety, but I shall try for an exemple.
    About more than thirty years ago,  I was working in NY and had a friend there, a lovely woman, who was the wife of a colleague. We used to have dinner together, as a four with my boyfriend,  then she parted from her spouse, got divorced, moved to Chicago. She used to call me on the phone, sometimes not very articulate, as she loved white wine.  I was myself drinking a glass or two every evening, but had started to be cautious about it as I hated getting drunk, and could get drunk real easily.  So we got on the phone once, and she was adamant she wanted to stop drinking, but was scared to go to an AA meeting. I had read recently that one of the urges of the body for wine was attraction to sugar,  so I said to her perhaps she might try before each meal to reach for some grapes, and see if that amount of sugar would let her off the urge to drink wine.  We called each other regularly [ email didn't exist yet ] and in the end strangely enough, it worked.  We lost track of each other about two years later.

    I am not sure if this is what you would call a loving action in its entirety. The sure thing is that in the end, it definitely was efficient for me too, as I was happy that, what was really a bit of a lark, had seemed to work, so I was enormously happy for her, so that made me happy, and then I, in fact much later on, used it on myself as one day I stopped drinking on a regular basis, and it helped me too, so it ended by being of service to me !   Gosh this is a long post, mostly about my little person,  and I don't even know if it addresses what you are looking for Xise...

    I would be interested though to understand what you are looking for, and read other exemples.... lol
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    The elephant in the room. - by Adonai One - 05-28-2013, 10:08 PM
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    RE: The elephant in the room. - by xise - 05-28-2013, 11:21 PM
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