01-21-2019, 11:08 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-22-2019, 12:14 AM by redchartreuse.)
(01-21-2019, 09:06 PM)Minyatur Wrote: It is totally possible but requires the aspects of your free will that made these choices to transform, else wouldn't you just move back to wanting the same still?
Yes! Exactly!
The soul... it is growing/learning, too. It decides: OK I am going to go have an incarnation. I'm gonna pack my bags with this and that. I am going to make these "preincarnative choices" to suffer in such and such way, so that I can learn to be more loving, or whatever such qualities the soul may choose.
Then it goes and has its life. All the while, it is gathering information from its incarnation. Uh-huh, yes this worked out as planned. And that DID NOT work out as planned. Oh yes, THAT was a happy surprise. And THAT was an unfortunately unintended consequence. Upon further review, and hopefully the gaining of some wisdom, the soul may decide to "play again".. but with a different set of parameters.
If it is choosing essentially the same thing over and over again, while expecting a different result, then perhaps the soul has gone "crazy". Perhaps it has become addicted to suffering. Perhaps it has been caught up in some sort of cosmic "cult" of suffering. Perhaps it has simply become lost, or misguided.
What then?
Just like how a parent may come to learn that their particular parenting philosophy didn't turn out to be the best for their child, perhaps this soul philosophy of "accelerated growth through intense suffering" needs to be re-examined in much the same way that many people today still beat their children "for their own good."
We might imagine a community of souls that adheres to this particular parenting philosophy. They all support each other in it. All of their teachers, elders, and guides nod and smile permissively when they learn of the behavior. Oh sure- they know there are other philosophies out there, but they KNOW that this one is the right one. They FEEL it in their heart of hearts! They only want the best for their children, and love them dearly. Right?
Again, as above, so below. We need not run the danger of getting too heady with speculation about the soul's environment. We may make reasonable inferences based upon what we see here around us in the physical world, based on every day interactions with our friends and family, and especially from what we see being played out on television and movie screens.
Quote:There's many instances where we want to quit something to become glad we didn't
And at least as many where we were glad that we found the courage to walk away from something that was destined to turn out poorly for all involved. Or just a big waste of time. Or look! They brought lemonade! Thanks! I'll just stash that here between the lemonade and... the ... lemonade.
Can I get an iced tea?
Quote:Well the you that transcends beyond this experience is a bit like that.
Right!
So there is the "me" in 4D that is traversing a dualistic environment, having 3D incarnations while perpetually at a "choice point" to spiral off to the left or to spiral off to the right, gaining or shedding polarity as I go. This 4D realm is infinite... it goes on forever. There will always be some "lighter light" or some "darker dark" to be experienced, to infinity.
Then there is the "me" in 5D which is, in a sense, created at the moment that my consciousness achieves sufficient polarity to leave one infinity, and enter into another, larger infinity.
Then there is the "me" in 6D who sees that there is only one spiral, spiraling. What is changing is the perspective of the 6D entity, whether it is looking down at the spiral from above, or up at the spiral from below. It sees all paths as one. Another, larger infinity.
Then there is the "me" in 7D, which experiences itself as the spiral, or the path itself. Another, larger infinity.
Quote:Are you so sure that the Universe wants you to prove something to it?
Well no, I'm not so sure. However I keep encountering philosophies which appear to suggest very strongly that this is the case, even if on the surface they purport to be saying the exact opposite.
To my perception, as faulty as it may be, it seems as if these particular philosophies are emanating from sources in 4D. Whereas sources from 5D or 6D tend to promote philosophies of a different variety.
Quote:I believe there is really nothing more than an exploration of one's own free will.
But if one explores free will to the point where the exercising of such almost invariably leads to horrific unintended consequences... then what? What comes next?
Quote:This density is centered upon self-realization.
Well again, if this is the case, then this particular exploration does not appear to be achieving the stated objective.
Quote:The material states that the purpose of veiled 3D experience is to offer more quality and variety of experiences to the Creator in the experience of Itself.
... and for the specific purpose of "speeding up" the evolution of souls, according to the intent of the Solar Logos.
The Creator (the Galactic Logos) has an infinity of infinities to choose from. Ultimately, one might presume that, to such a being, it is clearly seen that suffering is merely suffering. Dressing it up in different costumes, and torturing itself unnecessarily is certainly... and shall forever remain to be... a choice. But that doesn't make it a wise, or a fruitful choice.
But it is a choice. Not a requirement.
Quote:Things are not there so you prove yourself, but instead so you satisfy yourself. To understand this though, you need to understand where you come from and where you're going, just as why and how this is so.
What I am saying is that continuing to suffer in certain ways, while continually watching others suffer in even greater ways, is not satisfying to me. And if it is satisfying to my soul, then I am concerned for its well-being and must make an appeal to some higher authority in the matter.
I am well-prepared to continue to learn how to love, how to forgive, and how to be more empathic and compassionate without all the accoutrements of chronic physical pain, or neverending emotional dramas in my relationships. As I have stated before, the fruit of this experience has been fear, sadness, and anger, and fodder for beings that I no longer care to support. The so-called "plan" has not worked out as intended.
So now I would like to choose a different one.
I am fairly aware of who I am and why I came to be here. Some may have thought me foolhardy, and others thought me brave, but I came anyway. And I've seen all our plans dashed upon the rocks again and again, only to be told to pick up the pieces and carry on... that we were almost there! If we would just carry this burden of suffering for just a while longer, then all will truly be well.
It's always right around the corner, isn't it? Kind of like Christmas these days. ;-)
Quote:Ask your soul if that all is well is an understatement.
From the soul's perspective, I am not so sure. Some part of it appears to be so transfixed to engaging in a kind of "4D battle" that it would appear deaf to my calls for relief from the situation. Another part of it seems to be waiting... perhaps for me to choose to quit playing along with this whole unnecessary suffering thing.
Sure, from the grandest perspective, all is well when you have an infinity of infinities to choose from. But that's not the game that's being played here. We keep being told that we have free will, and that we have chosen to suffer. But we do not get to reap the emotional bounty from our suffering- that is left to sustain others whom we have been made to serve.
It's kind of like burning coal, but with emotional energy. Yes, perhaps we are doing this willingly, but also perhaps quite unwittingly.
And so sure... maybe we agreed to this on one level of the game. But how can we ever get to another level, if we keep agreeing to it?