(03-27-2015, 04:27 AM)ScottK Wrote: The problem with socialism is that it's confiscation of the fruits of one's labor (denial of free will) where an elite class controls the allocation of the confiscated resources. Of course, said elite class tends to spend the money in the interest of the elite class, but they throw a few bones to the people to make it look like they are doing something good.
Generally speaking, an elite class is interested in controlling money since that control gives them power over people.
Correct, I agree.
(03-27-2015, 04:27 AM)ScottK Wrote: The way to resolve the economic issues of the world is to have the release of suppressed technologies for free energy and a multitude of other areas, and in that period of innovation, pure capitalism would be the best model where companies compete against each other to produce the best mousetrap at the lowest cost.
All of this is impossible. Capitalism is not "for better mousetraps" . It is to make monopolies and control them via trick or force. Hence, during Capitalism, you ALWAYS will have cronies, you will have dirtiest possible ways to make money - killing people, drugs, weapons, stealing natural resources, etc. etc. If the only incentive is "more money" , the dirtiest possible people will always float to the top.
(08-29-2017, 12:00 PM)ScottK Wrote: Socialism and communism and their epic failures are solely about the corruption of "who controls the money".
This is misguided. There was never a COMMUNIST COUNTRY. Ever. It's a Utopian, STO idea that never materialized.
There's a massive, anti-Socialism propaganda that is everywhere in totalitarian, capitalist-owned media. While only getting all "capitalist" countries together and massively attacking Soviet Union "capitalists" were able to defeat socialism. No true research of this phenomenon is ever put out or discussed. Question is this: WHY?
Capitalism = "more money for the monopolies". That's it. There's no possible way to make it "proper" , "honest" or for it NOT to end up in monopolies.
The final result of capitalism is always an oligarchy and monopolies, and resulting corporate fascism. This is THE GOAL of Capitalism, by definition.
(03-28-2015, 02:50 PM)ScottK Wrote: What we really need is honest money and an honest legal system.
This is BY DEFINITION impossible.
As soon as you have money - it is the most corrupt element on the planet. Money+capitalism (idea of "getting more money") created the most corrupt system possible.
Capitalism by definition "want more money" , by definition most corrupt float to the top. And as soon as they are at the top , they are going to twick the legal system into their favor.
SO, no "honest money and legal system" is possible.
And you have no basis , as you have no groups of honest people to begin with. Who is going to issue and control both? You would expect there would be Hosety and Honor systems in the military. But if dishonest control the government (capitalists and lawyers), they will circumvent the military too (look at how many Trillions Pentagon has stolen and pillaged).