12-28-2018, 05:01 PM
Cyan, you have no idea.
First off, there's russian population everywhere in Ukraine. Nikita Khrushchev in the 1970-ies, and Lenin in 1920-ies gave majority of the Ukrainian territory to the "Ukraine", from Russian Soviet Socialist Republic. No such country as "Ukraine" ever existed.
Ukraine came from russian word for "okraina", or "bordering land".
Crimea is not only 85%+ russian population, it was forever russian territory. What NATO forces wanted is to control of the Black Sea via kicking russian fleet from the Black Sea. Crimea has several russian military bases, naturally, as it is nothing but russians there. Crimean referendum was as legit OR MORE as any american election.
"New government" could not possibly join anything after the west overthrew legitimate president. EU or NATO rules are not that simple and they won't allow just about anyone to join. Otherwise, Zimbabwe and Rwanda also want to join? It's an empty rhetoric.
>> Ukrainian government responds and gets dragged into a guerilla war in the east
There's no legit government in Ukraine, it is a junta. Naturally, russians in the east fight western-financed junta , basically for their freedom, on their own land.
CIA propaganda is pretty poor.
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Ships is a funny story, as now russians have missiles that can what... maybe 3-4 missiles sink the aircraft carrier? Aircraft Carriers are now obsolete. US and NATO generals (why are there 2000 generals and 2000 admirals when there's no large war??? of course, they want one.. but I digress) are really not happy, they want winning wars (medals), not losing ones.
First off, there's russian population everywhere in Ukraine. Nikita Khrushchev in the 1970-ies, and Lenin in 1920-ies gave majority of the Ukrainian territory to the "Ukraine", from Russian Soviet Socialist Republic. No such country as "Ukraine" ever existed.
Ukraine came from russian word for "okraina", or "bordering land".
Crimea is not only 85%+ russian population, it was forever russian territory. What NATO forces wanted is to control of the Black Sea via kicking russian fleet from the Black Sea. Crimea has several russian military bases, naturally, as it is nothing but russians there. Crimean referendum was as legit OR MORE as any american election.
"New government" could not possibly join anything after the west overthrew legitimate president. EU or NATO rules are not that simple and they won't allow just about anyone to join. Otherwise, Zimbabwe and Rwanda also want to join? It's an empty rhetoric.
>> Ukrainian government responds and gets dragged into a guerilla war in the east
There's no legit government in Ukraine, it is a junta. Naturally, russians in the east fight western-financed junta , basically for their freedom, on their own land.
CIA propaganda is pretty poor.
--
Ships is a funny story, as now russians have missiles that can what... maybe 3-4 missiles sink the aircraft carrier? Aircraft Carriers are now obsolete. US and NATO generals (why are there 2000 generals and 2000 admirals when there's no large war??? of course, they want one.. but I digress) are really not happy, they want winning wars (medals), not losing ones.