Its murder.

[Ali Quadir]

I only disagreed. Not all disagreeing is a catalyst, perhaps you feel it that way, but it isn't to me. Think about that. Why do you see what I do not see? Because it is in you?

The language used implied non-acceptance;

My point was precisely that you cannot think like that. Just like you cannot drive up a 60 degrees slope. You end up in impossible situations. That's not catalyst it is reality.

I mentioned some of those situations.

Eating a vegetable to survive is an entirely different context/circumstance to choosing to unnecessarily kill another life.

Eating a vegetable is semantically practically the same as choosing to kill another life out of necessity. So it seems that you are correct. You implied earlier however that eating vegetables was somehow objectively better than eating something else since vegetables and fruits were made to be eaten by us. No they're not, fruit maybe and even then not all of the fruit, but vegetables certainly not. they're organisms who fight to survive just like we do.

I'm a vegetarian, but to me that's subjective opinion.

Another arbitrary measurement of a creatures advancedness is the amount of genes it has in it's DNA... There is a flower in Japan that's about 10 times more complex than we are. We suppose it does not think, it has no brain. But it is a highly advanced entity none the less. If you wiped it out and started it from fresh assuming the same path could be walked again it would take more generations to evolve than we did. Why do we not pick height? Weight? Speed? Because we don't have those things, as monkeys we value social aptitude and intelligence.

Here we have different personal truths. Second density, and those who choose in third density is brutal. Gaia isn't. It's part of the evolutionary process. Gaia provides the elements needed for experience. She can shrug us off, but it would be a considerable assumption to think she does that on a whim. It's more likely to be linked to a cosmic cycle.

Yep, like you said, personal truths. Not objective, but subjective, defined by your opinion. Arbitrary... You're saying the same now, but not earlier.

I object to the notion of seeing Gaia as some sort of anthromorphized ball of clay. Most of all creatures on earth die through violence or disaster. To claim that Gaia is innocent, knows nothing about that is in my opinion naive. It discredits the thousands of generations of indiginous people that this planet has known. And is right back in the christian/muslim/jewish mindset. Where God is great and all misery comes from the devil...

Can a creature not be great and terrible at the same time? We are moral, I can deal with that, but why must we impose morality on everything around us? What is the problem in that? It's a fact of life that if you want to walk into the wilderness and eat what Gaia feeds you, survive truly as one of her children. You'd better come prepared. Most of us would not last 2 weeks. Gaia is brutal, no amount of love and light is going to change what she is.

On what are we basing the assumption that she truly lovingly cares about us as individuals?