12-23-2010, 02:45 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-23-2010, 02:55 PM by turtledude23.)
Pathogens like bacteria and viruses are 2nd density beings like animals, we kill them all the time, consciously and unconsciously, and we need to in order to survive. Plants are also 2nd density beings like animals, we kill vegetables to survive. We have to kill some lower consciousness entities to survive, so the issue isn't killing itself but level of consciousness. Cetaceans, according to Q'uo, are as conscious as human being, if not more so, so killing them should be out of the question because it would be like killing a human missionary. A cow is more conscious than a chicken which is more conscious than a fish which, I assume, is more conscious than vegetables, which are more conscious than microscopic entities.
It comes down to intention. Even killing animals for food is okay if you need to survive and can't be fully vegetarian. Mosquitos can carry alot of diseases so its okay to kill them to survive. Its a sad reality of 3rd density that more conscious entities kill less conscious entities to survive; I doubt this is the case in our home densities but while we're here we've gotta play within the framework.
Furthermore I don't think killing is ruled out by being STO, accepting others doesn't mean standing by and letting them infringe someone else's free will, so the same standards should be applied to 2nd density beings. If an insect is biting me and I don't want it to then it'll have to face the same consequences as if a fellow human was biting me. Could it be catalyst to suffer a pain that you could stop if you wanted to? Yes, but not using the catalyst of a bug bite to its full efficiency isn't a big deal, you'll have plenty more catalyst to come later.
If you want to learn about dolphin slaughtering I recommend this movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cove_(film) Also Star Trek IV shows the plight of whales being hunted, but since the movie was made in 1987 whaling has become alot more regulated.
It comes down to intention. Even killing animals for food is okay if you need to survive and can't be fully vegetarian. Mosquitos can carry alot of diseases so its okay to kill them to survive. Its a sad reality of 3rd density that more conscious entities kill less conscious entities to survive; I doubt this is the case in our home densities but while we're here we've gotta play within the framework.
Furthermore I don't think killing is ruled out by being STO, accepting others doesn't mean standing by and letting them infringe someone else's free will, so the same standards should be applied to 2nd density beings. If an insect is biting me and I don't want it to then it'll have to face the same consequences as if a fellow human was biting me. Could it be catalyst to suffer a pain that you could stop if you wanted to? Yes, but not using the catalyst of a bug bite to its full efficiency isn't a big deal, you'll have plenty more catalyst to come later.
If you want to learn about dolphin slaughtering I recommend this movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cove_(film) Also Star Trek IV shows the plight of whales being hunted, but since the movie was made in 1987 whaling has become alot more regulated.