1992.6.14 The path of negative and positive

[yossarian]

It's whatever you want it to be. (or like unity100 said, both). It's your intention that sets the focus that is beneficial to your soul. Are you meditating because you love peace and joy for yourself, or because you love to see others uplifted to a state of peace and joy?

That's my whole problem with the idea of polarity.

My intention is clearly both. I want to be happy and joyful and feel universal love. I also want this for others. I guess I'm stuck in the sinkhole of indifference.

I have great difficulty choosing myself or others. It seems like a false dichotomy. I'd rather serve the Creator, serve the All, and that includes recognizing myself as the creator and others as the creator - everyone as the creator! This is the Law of One is it not?

So I make myself happy and, when I can, I make others happy too. And when I make others happy this tends to enhance my own happiness.

So many ancient meditators would go off alone and find enlightenment. Were they progressing through the densities in an STS fashion? They would abstain from doing harmful acts because they wanted to avoid accumulating karma. Is that STS or STO? Their focus was on themselves - they wanted freedom. And they were smart because they knew that enslaving others would hamper their freedom by incurring karma.

If you're seeking the positive path, don't include your concerns in the affairs of light and love to others.

I don't really understand what you mean by this.

Keep it simple. One thing that I always used to do, that I didn't see the value of until I'm able to look back on it now is, when coming in contact with people, visualize them enjoying the peace of mind that you reside in. Visualize them "being enlightened one day". Visualize them partaking in sharing the love and light that you're enabling them to discover within this lifetime. Visualize them being empowered, discovering their own spirit. You won't do this because you stand to gain anything from it. You'll do it because you love them as yourself. As long as they remain in a state of confused suffering, there is a part of you that is suffering.

This sounds like you aren't accepting them as you find them, but that you're projecting something on to them so that you can love them.

I used to do this but then I decided I was engaging in what psychologists call "splitting" where you avoid seeing the parts of a person that you don't like so that you can like/love them. It's inauthentic and disrespectful because you're refusing to see the real them.

It seems to me that true universal love can love people for their faults and in all their forms without projecting some enlightened persona on them or imagining them as the infinite spirit.

Feeling love does feel good. That's because it's not an entity. It's a universal energy. It's not biased towards either side, accepting both. If you proceeded farther along that path, you would remove fuzz and focus on channeling that universal love into strengthening and empowering the self, with no regard for others. That's STS.

But when I feel love, I also feel love when I come into contact with others. I do have regard for them. I love them.

Ra said that having an open heart is the path of STO and STS people have closed their green and blue rays no?

I forget if it was Ra or Q'uo, but it was said that those on the path of STS feel the same sensations as those on the path of STO. It's the Creator that motivates both. This phrase from the Q'uote in the first post is relevant. "each step upon the negative path seems from within to be positive." (As is the whole thing, really. That session is pure gold.)

So how do I figure out if i'm STS or STO if STS feels like it's positive?

How do you know [Gates] intention was selfish?

He said as much. His focus was purely on profit and dominating the market, treating business like a puzzle or game to be won at all costs.

The current human viewpoint can't contain both, and that's on purpose. I think you're right when you say that you don't have to subjugate others when you serve yourself. And the reverse holds true as well. Also, you don't have to be perfect all the time. There doesn't always have to be a positive reason or intention behind a seemingly STS act. You're allowed to make mistakes! You're allowed to taste both flavors before dipping in.

I don't understand why the human viewpoint can't contain both STS and STO? Do you just mean that if you don't emphasize one you'll never escape 3D because you won't have enough polarity power?

Anyway this thread has helped me to get a closer idea of what it means to be STS or STO I think.

My intuition basically says to focus on the self to a point and then focus on others. So like achieve a certain level of joy and peace and love, and then use those positive feelings to help others. I mean that's what I'm motivated to do. But that means that sometimes I have to STOP serving others in order to re-connect with the joy and peace and love if serving others interferes with that sometimes.

Sharing the surplus is how humans operate with respect to charity generally. The problem is that as soon as you get accustomed to a certain standard of living, then you are uncomfortable giving it away because it lowers your standard of living.

As soon as you experience a higher level of joy you don't want to step away from meditation haha.

A lot of Hindus and Buddhists say you should aim for full enlightenment before helping others. I wonder how many Buddhist meditation masters took the negative path but were just smart enough not to get in karmic entanglements.

I always thought that Ra said the path of acceptance and open blue and green chakras is the positive, while negative is the path of control and repression and closed green and blue chakras. This would lead to very different sensations for the meditator - closed green ray means no love does it not?