An Archetype Workbook

[Sacred Fool]

Does this strike you as rather different from most questions posed in these sessions?  It seems almost absurdly abstract to moi.  I wonder how hard it would be--and how much would be lost and gained--to cast the dialogue in plain English (instead of ceremonial Ra-sprach)?  Might that be refreshingly practical?

I think part of the whole thing with the archetypes is that the student needs to do a good deal of work on their own before they can freely be taught by entities on the other side of the veil.

The answer doesn't seem that abstract to me. From my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong, Jeremy) - Jeremy is asking about the process of catalyst/experience, and if experience is catalyst having been distilled to the other side of the veil. Q'uo basically says no and says that basically there is more nuance than that, because much processing of catalyst remains unconscious, and that, because of the veil, it's easy to conflate what is catalyst and what is actually distilled experience. Before the veil, things were obviously not hidden. But with the veiling, there is still a lot of confusion in this process.

I think there is a flaw in Jeremy's question (no offense!) because, for the mind cycle, while Catalyst is the female portion, and Experience in the male, Catalyst is the female portion ennobled by the conscious mind, and Experience is the conscious mind ennobled by the subconscious mind. So the subconscious mind is still thoroughly in play in the Experience card even though it is represented by the male principle. I believe the concept that Jeremy is talking about, distilling experience to the point of piercing the veil for use in a conscious manner, is more of a Great Way type energy.

So, yeah, I think you have to be knee-deep to be able to grok meaning from this type of question/answer. Not saying I have all the answers, either. I could be entirely wrong by this interpretation. It's my understanding, though, that the archetypes are a language that we learn so that we can communicate with our subconscious and intuition more thoroughly. Beyond that, there's not a lot to them - but of course, communicating with the subconscious is communicating with infinity, so it's well worth the effort IMO.

So, please help me out here, Jade. Having verbalized all that above, does it assist you in any way? Does it guide you or comfort you, or is it all functionally abstract?

Please compare it to this mundane line of thinking. As I go through my day, various experiences befall me and from time to time a particular snippet of experience seems to have a charge to it which is higher than random. I try to mull these charged items over because I suspect they might be interesting catalyst. Some of these may have intrinsic charge, like a fist fight, and some may be charged only to me because my mind is drawing my attention to them. Exploring the catalyst often leads to experience inspired by that exploration. Over the years, after having discharged thousands of these things, my conscious relationship with my mind, conscious and otherwise, has deepened because our ability to talk to one another has become far more facile.

Am I wrong or is this not a construct that is 10 times more practical than being able to say things like, the experience of the mind is ennobled by the subconscious? I just don’t see (yet, perhaps?) how the tarot deck is even in that league of spiritual utility.


On the other hand, maybe this post is just me talking to myself? I mean, maybe my unconscious is consciously talking to my conscious, which is unconscious of this?