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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Free will?

    Thread: Free will?


    Ankh (Offline)

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    12-16-2010, 06:30 PM
    (11-29-2010, 02:43 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: I am intellectually aware of the fact that catalyst hits me all the time and that I could use it 100% efficiently, but I don't. Sometimes I forgot a situation is catalyst, sometimes I know it is but its hard to make a polarizing choice, usually I end up making the choice that makes me polarize more STO but sometimes its after alot of internal struggle. I don't see what's confusing about it to you. If I really, really, really wanted to I could use my catalyst 100% efficiently from this moment on but it comes down to my free will, how much I want to do that, how motivated I am to do that, how well I can handle pain. Are you saying its not free will because we don't have that many choices? As long as you have more than 1 choice its free will. Less choices sometimes is a good thing, it lets you explore those choices more fully.

    I put a great deal in exploring the concept of free will from what you all said here and my own thoughts. I think I understand that concept now, but find the sentence "free will" different compare to what it means in LOO. However those of Quo said:

    "In this search for resonance, it is to be remembered that the nature of language is that it is inherently limited. It is twice limited. First it is limited in that words must be strung together to make sentences and sentences strung together to make paragraphs and so forth. Each word has a little universe of supporting inferences which enrich the collection of words due to the context of each word being placed in its line of the flow of thought. Yet they remain finite and inherently limited.

    They are limited a second time because the mind does not function according to words but rather according to concepts. Concepts are infinite. However, they can only be expressed by the human mind and gotten out into the outer manifestation of words by a process of translation which works almost like a cook rolling out the dough of a concept and taking cookie cutters to it and fashioning the flat words which bake up into that translated concept. Needless to say, a great deal is lost in translation."

    Anyway, then I also put a lot of thinking in your words, Turtle, regarding to "choose/not to choose" to use catalyst at 100%. And if I would "choose" to to use my catalysts at 100% it would demand of me to not be "human". I would need to shut down almost all of my feelings/emotions as soon as I recognize them to be a catalyst and work them through. For now it is simply not possible for me to do that, not because I "choose" it but because I/my mentality/human mind cannot handle it. It is interesting thought and a great desire though...

    Unity - why do you find the catalyst thing to be "overblown"?

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    Free will? - by Ankh - 11-29-2010, 12:28 PM
    RE: Free will? - by turtledude23 - 11-29-2010, 12:41 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ali Quadir - 11-29-2010, 12:44 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ankh - 11-29-2010, 01:19 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ankh - 11-29-2010, 02:38 PM
    RE: Free will? - by turtledude23 - 11-29-2010, 02:43 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ankh - 12-16-2010, 06:30 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ali Quadir - 11-29-2010, 02:48 PM
    RE: Free will? - by unity100 - 11-29-2010, 02:52 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Richard - 11-29-2010, 04:15 PM
    RE: Free will? - by unity100 - 11-29-2010, 04:39 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Richard - 11-29-2010, 06:39 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ankh - 11-29-2010, 07:06 PM
    RE: Free will? - by unity100 - 11-29-2010, 09:00 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ankh - 12-01-2010, 05:09 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ali Quadir - 11-29-2010, 07:25 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ankh - 11-29-2010, 07:33 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ali Quadir - 11-29-2010, 07:53 PM
    RE: Free will? - by unity100 - 12-01-2010, 06:14 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ankh - 12-01-2010, 06:49 PM
    RE: Free will? - by unity100 - 12-16-2010, 09:23 PM
    RE: Free will? - by Ankh - 12-17-2010, 07:48 AM

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