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Thread: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst

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06-20-2018, 06:06 PM (This post was last modified: 06-20-2018, 06:15 PM by yossarian.)

(06-18-2018, 09:35 AM)unity100 Wrote: Pure witnesses have no business in an incarnation in this planet.

Et tu, unity100?

"Witness" in the context of spiritual discussions does not mean "bystander"!

Do you think the Buddha is not a pure witness, but just a passive indifferent bystander?!

Purity and witnessing are not mutually exclusive to love, compassion, action, and service!

Our spiritual examples throughout all history, every last one, demonstrated how they combined purity with action.

The Buddha is the All Being in One who sees All Is One, All As Creator, and the Buddha also has infinite compassion for all suffering, and the Buddha labours to enlighten the world, the Buddha chops wood and carries water. Jesus was a carpenter who revived Lazarus and threw out the money changers.

Do you see these examples who were pure witnesses but NOT bystanders?

The Buddha sees the Creator winking at him in every situation but he also has infinite compassion and takes action.

Hence the Ra quote that the appropriate action is to feed the starving. There is no contradiction here.

Ra Wrote:to the pure, all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator.

Ra Wrote:To a mind/body/spirit complex which is starving, the appropriate response is the feeding of the body.

There is no contradiction here! Both are precisely true and not mutually exclusive. In states of enlightenment you see both and you do both. You see the worst suffering as the love and light of the One Infinite Creator, and you are also moved by infinite compassion to serve and love that Creator in all guises, by, for example, feeding the starving.

And from this vantage you also discover the purpose of suffering. The Creator knowing itself in exquisite perfection.

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Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 05-26-2018, 11:25 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by EvolvingPhoenix - 05-27-2018, 02:16 AM

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RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 03:39 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Sprout - 05-27-2018, 03:43 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Louisabell - 05-27-2018, 06:20 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 03:56 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Infinite Unity - 05-27-2018, 11:36 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Sacred Fool - 05-27-2018, 01:17 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-19-2018, 11:31 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Sacred Fool - 06-21-2018, 02:42 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Cannon - 05-28-2018, 12:30 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by flofrog - 05-28-2018, 01:01 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 04:05 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by isis - 05-28-2018, 10:10 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 05-29-2018, 03:30 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by loostudent - 05-29-2018, 04:43 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Quan - 05-29-2018, 06:20 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Diana - 05-29-2018, 10:27 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 05-30-2018, 03:24 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Diana - 05-30-2018, 10:35 AM

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RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 05:02 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-17-2018, 04:50 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 06-20-2018, 06:19 PM

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RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Minyatur - 05-30-2018, 06:23 PM

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RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by flofrog - 06-17-2018, 04:59 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by unity100 - 06-18-2018, 09:35 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 06-20-2018, 06:06 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by loostudent - 06-21-2018, 11:22 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Diana - 06-21-2018, 11:31 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-21-2018, 12:32 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 06-21-2018, 12:37 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Minyatur - 06-21-2018, 02:46 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Diana - 06-21-2018, 04:05 PM

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RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 06-21-2018, 06:22 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-21-2018, 05:06 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Minyatur - 06-21-2018, 11:55 PM

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RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Patrick - 06-22-2018, 09:32 AM

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RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 04-15-2021, 08:46 PM

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RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Taralie Peterdaughter - 06-19-2018, 11:33 AM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by yossarian - 06-21-2018, 12:26 PM

RE: Greater clarity on pain and suffering and the need for such catalyst - by Diana - 06-21-2018, 06:40 PM

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