06-02-2018, 10:29 AM
(06-01-2018, 04:15 PM)Glow Wrote: How do you see what I wrote as fear based and manipulative?
I’m not in a state of fear so I’m not seeing how I could be pushing fear.
Quote:First it's no issue replying at all. I just don't really grasp why you are ascribing certain characteristics to me. Fear based, manipulative, or infringing on free will. I think you are perceiving things through your own filter of not wanting those things done so are fearing ME doing them but I wouldn't. That's likely why my ego was shaped as it is, I respect others free will actually much more than my own.(06-02-2018, 07:59 AM)Sprout Wrote: When one is sharing certain understandings about knowing beyond about an other-self outside of their own self, do you understand what I mean?
(06-01-2018, 05:35 PM)Glow Wrote:(05-31-2018, 11:01 PM)Sprout Wrote: By your analogy, a couple mind/body's living parallely of the same spirit complex at the same time right? Meaning they become one after death right?
Well what does that even mean to personal development in a veiled 3rd density?
How can one gain polarity and progress towards the creator in their own way? I.E.
What if one part achieves 95% STS? (Are all parts automatically harvested STS because the spirit is one?)
What if only a few parts achieve STO harvest? (Do all parts get harvested STO?)
What if one part is manipulated and sent to a different time/space and born in a negative space/time environment by the higher self? (Do all parts go there because in time/space it's one entity?
It just abridges free will, and has a LOT of space for manipulation.
Re-read Q'uo answer when asked parallel incarnations, the answer is so blurred and in-definitive as if it's talking to the oneness of all and not two parallel selves.
I didn’t have time to reply properly before but in my case which is really all I can speak of. I am told all three aspects will reach the exact same end point. It’s known. Just like traveling different paths picking up different bits of scenery along the way but at the end of incarnation we will have basically reached the same growth and understanding. Refined ourselves to the same point just 3 different ways. 3 different flavours.
Take it or leave it. Also about if one is manipulated and goes astray as you ask. Then it was planned and it will still end as it was supposed to at the same place we intended. Our incarnation does not have as much wiggle room as most, there are things to keep us on our path. None of us are worried about harvest love comes easy the balance of love and wisdom is what we need.
This doesn’t negate free will in the moment because decisions are made in each moment. If you go deeper into the understanding of time free will and destiny can co exist because all time is now.
Not sure if i made this better or worse but I can only share my experience. I don’t need anyone to believe anything I was just offering an experience when it was asked for and now I am answering you question from my experience.
Feel free to disregard what bothers you. Not all things are needed by all beings.(06-02-2018, 07:59 AM)Sprout Wrote: It's ok, I'm sorry that I take much of your time and make you worry about replying to my posts.
I'm thankful that you talk about your experience more openly, it gives a wider perspective and understanding rather than hinting about knowing x and y.
We probably won't understand how free will works in here.
All I am suggesting is that you consider the free will of those individuals that you believe you are connected with. For example I will quote your previous post that initially is why I kept replying to this topic.
I have trouble pruning plants, or taking a rock from the beach without asking their permission. It is truly not a concern and I assume the type that would do those things hasn't been set into a life like this because it wouldn't work. The unfolding has to happen on it's own or it's coerced. Anything from coercion isn't worth anything to me.
I don't tell THEM anything. I am a mirror. I think this is why I was told because they do not seem to have the same reservations as they have told me when they each reached similar conclusions. One who was last on the spiritual path(hadn't even started at the time) very quickly after we met summed it up without any new age terminology. It was just obvious to him.
When they come to stuff on their own I will comment honestly but I am not leading their path. I am sincere in who I am but this stuff is better without meddling. I appreciate the magic of my journey and as "them" they deserve the same richness of experiencing things that I have gotten.
Both have already reached less flushed out versions and I do not fill in the blanks because again I understand freewill different but know the growth and magic comes from "making the decisions in the moment", being free to discern and letting the universe talk to you.
Quote:The one alternate incarnation I know the birth date of our adeptness cycle reaches 99%+ the exact day every month even though we were born 6 months apart.
(06-02-2018, 07:59 AM)Sprout Wrote: Your experience sounds very unique and important, and that is your piece of the great picture. Each holds a different piece, and that is fine. When you're talking about knowing about certain individuals, comparing and deciding what their life is all about.. it kinda throws you off. That is all I wanted to say.
I'm sorry for being such a bum.
You are ascribing characteristics to me again. I don't know why that bugs me. Obviously something for me to work on because it's your right to do that. Obviously I still have an issue with people assuming who I am on such a level. Thank you for revealing that issue to me because it's silly to be bothered by people not seeing me due to their own filter. It is a natural inclination.
First I think all experiences are the same in importance. Second I am not saying I compare and "decide" what their life is about. I this ego is not my soul. I am trying to embody my soul as much as possible but it was the entirety of the soul outside incarnation that "did this" not Glow. And I as "Glow" am not saying what their life is about, I am sharing what I have been told through the soul.
I also of course don't go telling them what their life should be or it would be coerced, and the value and intensity of what they learn on their journey would be diminished. I just don't do that on principal because I like freedom but even from a soul perspective nothing would be gained. I don't do that.
Both have actually made statements in surprise over the years about my extreme lack of even participating in the worlds style of relational coercion. Nagging, whining, being butt hurt, passive aggressive, guilt tripping, or anything else. If I don't do that you don't need to worry about me trying to push their incarnation in any direction. Nothing gained through coercion is any good to me.
I suspect that wont appease your concern but it may be a worry only you can resolve for yourself. Like me having to working on not feeling uncomfortable when others ascribe unflattering characteristics to me I gotta really get to the root of that on my own steam. Catalyst. If that statement felt manipulative to you I just mean I don't think I can truly allay this fear for you.