05-25-2018, 08:41 AM
(05-24-2018, 11:58 PM)Heart4 Wrote:(05-24-2018, 09:39 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:(05-24-2018, 08:54 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Yes, I agree, God IS. “I Am.” Ehyeh, “I am” or “I am becoming”.
One translation of the exchange between Moses and the Burning Bush is: “Ehyeh asher Ehyeh” or “I am becoming that which I am becoming”.
The Creator is knowing Itself. It is becoming more than It is.
God is because He is. That’s the Great Mystery.
Is God beyond the Limitless Light, or does God crystalize out of the Limitless Light?
And is Limitless Light the same as Intelligent Infinity?
I am assuming infinite levels between God and Creator (One Infinite Creator).
Is the next Octave the Limitless Light?
I would say Ain Soph (limitless light) is intelligent infinity, or at the very least intelligent infinity in a kinetic form!
According to kaballah - I just bought a kaballah book - they say that there is a positive and a negative expression of god.
A positive expression eventually isolates itself through "tzim tzum" - self contraction that created the ain soph/kether split.
After this split, it realizes its loss, immediately desiring to orient its polarized ambiguity, if that makes sense!
Hope this helps.
I would also love to know whether god exists "as this", or as something "other than this." Is god positive, negative, or ambiguous? I feel like atheists negate god religiously. But I also feel that nobody more religiously declares the non-existence than hardcore buddhist non-theists! So I would also like to discover whether I can believe in a positive god without giving up my non-theism! Can you help?
The answer is both and neither. I just had a conversation over private message with another user here about this exact topic. One can’t say that God exists or that He doesn’t exist. Above Kether, the Crown, are the three negative veils of existence: negative existence, or the Creator as He truly is. Existence is dependent on manifestation. If we go backwards from Kether, we enter the Great Unmanifest. Manifestation is dependent on Ain Soph, but Ain Soph is not dependent on manifestation.
The Buddha was asked to describe whether an Arahat ceases to exist upon Liberation and the answer given was that one cannot qualify it with words. One cannot say that he exists or doesn’t exist. It is a mode of existence that is wholly other than what we know or can conceive of. I use this example because complete and perfect enlightenment in the East is equivalent to Union with God, the mystical experience of Kether.
The Buddha recommends that we go all the way and see for ourselves, and I am perfectly content with that answer
Tzim tzum is an interesting concept. Ain Soph contracts within Itself and concentrates a point in Ain Soph Aur (the Limitless Light), this becomes Kether. There is nothing but the Creator. Nothing. No-thing. Therefore there cannot be anything other than the Creator. The Creation is not outside of the Creator. So, in the expression of positive and negative existence, the Great Unmanifest is negative existence, manifestation (the commencement of the Emanations starting with Kether of Atziluth and ending at Malkuth of Assiah) is positive existence. Dion Fortune in her Mystical Qabalah said that Kether is the Malkuth of the Unmanifest. It’s a seed thought.